2011.02.23 13:00 - music, the sea, and frogs

The Guardian for this meeting was druth Vlodovic. Present were Aphrodite Macbain, Kit Ciaco, Fox Monacular, Korel Laloix, oO0Oo and I.  Thanks to kit for the title and music  :-)

Aphrodite Macbain: Hello Kit.
Kit Ciaco: Hi!
Aphrodite Macbain: I' going to get some soup. Brb
druth Vlodovic: hi kit
Kit Ciaco: Hello Druth!
Kit Ciaco: Have you been here before?
druth Vlodovic: yes, I have
druth Vlodovic: thanks
Kit Ciaco: Great! I hadn't noticed you but am glad to meet you today!
druth Vlodovic: I'm pretty sure we'v met, though a while ago
druth Vlodovic: I haven't heard your flute yet, though
Kit Ciaco: OH! Sorry!!
Kit Ciaco: LOL!
Kit Ciaco: yep
Kit Ciaco: That's a sure sign we've met alright!
druth Vlodovic: oh, that's ok, I'm sure I'll get the oppourtuity :)
Kit Ciaco: Well, since no one else is here, I'll give you a quick live sample....
Aphrodite Macbain: oh! haunting
Aphrodite Macbain: Thank you!!
Kit Ciaco: Thanks!
Aphrodite Macbain: what were you playing?
Kit Ciaco: That's one of the ones I make in rl
druth Vlodovic: ty
Kit Ciaco: It's a Wingsong Flute, key of G in Verdi tuning
Kit Ciaco: which is why it sounds a little flatter than "normal"
Aphrodite Macbain: Verdi tuning...
Kit Ciaco: native american style flute
Kit Ciaco: yes
Kit Ciaco: fascinating tuning
Aphrodite Macbain: as in Giuseppi?
Kit Ciaco: in concert tuning A=440Hz
Kit Ciaco: but in verdi A=432
Aphrodite Macbain: perhaps that's what gives its haunting quality
Kit Ciaco: don't know Giuseppi
Kit Ciaco: but years ago verdi was much more pupular
Aphrodite Macbain: Giuseppi Verdi
Aphrodite Macbain: Italian composer
Kit Ciaco: Yes, I think that is correct
Aphrodite Macbain: 19th century
Kit Ciaco: the thing is, for many years different pianists and orchrestra masters would try to outdo one another by raising the A
Aphrodite Macbain: is it made of bamboo?
Kit Ciaco: so that that sopranos could outdo one another
Kit Ciaco: which is why the middle A kept creeping higher and higher
Kit Ciaco: but VErdi is more cosmically sound
Aphrodite Macbain: raising the A???
Kit Ciaco: no
Kit Ciaco: this one is red cedar
Aphrodite Macbain: I thought it was an absolute
Aphrodite Macbain: A
Kit Ciaco: I also use Alaskan yellow
Kit Ciaco: no
Aphrodite Macbain: does it give it a different quality?
Kit Ciaco: the a can be calibrated differently
Kit Ciaco: well, cedar is one of the most common
Kit Ciaco: but the tones shift based on all sorts of factors
Aphrodite Macbain: I know so little about music theory. Musicians are mathematicians I think
Kit Ciaco: I don't usualy work with more exotic woods
Kit Ciaco: and alot of flute makers say there is no real differences
Aphrodite Macbain: exotic is relative, I would think
Kit Ciaco: I do see a difference betwen my Alsakns and my reds, though
Kit Ciaco: I agree
Aphrodite Macbain: perhaps it LOOKS nicer
Kit Ciaco: about math and exotic
Kit Ciaco: I actually prefer the more basic ones anywya
Kit Ciaco: well, heheheheh
Aphrodite Macbain: brb
Kit Ciaco: depends on the finish to some extent
Kit Ciaco: I finish many of mine with a poke berry stain from my woods
Kit Ciaco: and people rave about them
Kit Ciaco: but for me, it's not just the looks
Kit Ciaco: it's the tone that's most important for me
druth Vlodovic: how did you get into making flutes?
Kit Ciaco: heheheheh
Kit Ciaco: well
Kit Ciaco: they say that most people who start playing will soon want to make their own
Kit Ciaco: I began playing about five years ago
Kit Ciaco: and within a month I began piddling on my own
Kit Ciaco: I think it's sort of primordial for some folks
Kit Ciaco: I don't know....
Aphrodite Macbain: Kit- are you the Guardian?
Kit Ciaco: no
Kit Ciaco: I don't know how to claim a session yet
Kit Ciaco: I just came for the popcorn....
Kit Ciaco: Can you claim the session?
--BELL--
Kit Ciaco: This sounds like a joke.... "How many guardians does it take to claim a session?" One. But it must know HOW to claim the session."
druth Vlodovic: lol, I can if you like
Kit Ciaco: great!
Aphrodite Macbain: I can help you Kit
druth Vlodovic: afaik you just click the thingy in the centre
Aphrodite Macbain: o great
Kit Ciaco: that's ok for now - you take it, druth!
druth Vlodovic: but you have to set up your e-mail
Aphrodite Macbain: oh
Aphrodite Macbain: are you claiming it druth?
druth Vlodovic: I just did
Kit Ciaco: I'm holding off claiming for awhile....
druth Vlodovic: but since I'm doing you a favour you need to give me a good title :)
druth Vlodovic: why?
Kit Ciaco: personal reasons mostly....
Kit Ciaco: a good title... Hmmmm - that sounds like fun!
Aphrodite Macbain: the session will be recorded as soon as it's claimed.
druth Vlodovic: not afraid of making a fool of yourself?
Aphrodite Macbain: you will miss alot if you don't claim it immediately
Kit Ciaco: Oh, HECK no!
Kit Ciaco: I make a fool of myself about 24 times a day!
druth Vlodovic: lol, good :)
Kit Ciaco: It's my calling....
druth Vlodovic: no, it starts at 1 and you get the whole log
Aphrodite Macbain: I must be somewhere else in a few minutes; sorry I'll miss your foolishness!!
Kit Ciaco: Oh, I'm sure you'll see it again next time around....
druth Vlodovic: aww, who will we play for?
druth Vlodovic: gone, a quick few minutes
Kit Ciaco: hmmmm - low tide this afternoon....
druth Vlodovic: now we have to talk about something deep and wise
Kit Ciaco: LOL!!!!!
druth Vlodovic: low tide?
Kit Ciaco: unfortunately, I am a Bear of Little Brain....
Kit Ciaco: I gave up deep, wise thoughts some time ago
druth Vlodovic: we'll make a lovely pair
Kit Ciaco: just in terms of numbers - not quality - tide-wise
Kit Ciaco: Indeed!
druth Vlodovic: you live near the ocean?
Kit Ciaco: In my heart only
Kit Ciaco: I'm a landlubber
druth Vlodovic: ah, me too, though we go to the ocean every year on vacation
Kit Ciaco: But I've spent many days and wonderful hours flying my 9 foot Delta kite on the beaches
Kit Ciaco: sigh
Kit Ciaco: it's a wonderful space, where the land meets the sea
druth Vlodovic: I love the roar of the surf
Kit Ciaco: I do, however, have a tiny little pond in my back yard where I sit with the frogs for hours on end in the summer time
druth Vlodovic: and the strange life that comes up to meet you
Kit Ciaco: and the salt in the air and the seagulls and the wind and the sand!!!
Kit Ciaco: Yes!
Kit Ciaco: it's a very different spirit what lives on the coast
druth Vlodovic: ah tadpoles! I haven't gotten to play with those since I was young
Kit Ciaco: Some of my finest moments in life have been flying my kite at midnight by the moon on the beach
Kit Ciaco: They are FUN fellas to play with, I can tell you!
Kit Ciaco: Frogs possess great wisdom
druth Vlodovic: that's an image, I'm sure you were the source of a few precious moments for others when they saw that :)
druth Vlodovic: wisdom?
Kit Ciaco: heheheheh - I wonder - I never noticed much except the flight in those days
Kit Ciaco: Yes - they seem so content
Kit Ciaco: I mean, never worried
Kit Ciaco: if uncomfortable they just move
Kit Ciaco: At the beginning of each summer when I walk toward the pond they all leap into the water or hop madling into the woods
Kit Ciaco: but as the summer progresses more and more of them stay on the rocks while I sit and play
Kit Ciaco: They sing when they feel like singing
Kit Ciaco: And they don't seem to worry how they sound
Kit Ciaco: They just blend with all that is is such harmony
Kit Ciaco: I sit with them to learn mostly
druth Vlodovic: I always wondered about people who did karate in public parks, similar idea, just doing, not showing or hiding
Kit Ciaco: exactly!
Kit Ciaco: Perhaps they were frogs in a former life
Kit Ciaco: or are preparing for froghood in the next life
--BELL--
druth Vlodovic: like an artist playing her own flute for strangers in a strange place :)
Kit Ciaco: And there's that whole angle of them getting to be kissed by princesses!
Kit Ciaco: hehehehehe
druth Vlodovic: oh, the poor things
Kit Ciaco: I have taken to going around the grid and playing....
druth Vlodovic: from freedom to a profession preoccupied by image
Kit Ciaco: yes - nothing worse than seeing a frog with lipstick on its cheek!
druth Vlodovic: lol
druth Vlodovic: so hard to get started with art "what if somebody sees?!?"

-as she points out later the word is "exhibitionist" but if you're watching yourself do it I guess "voyeur" is appropriate too

Kit Ciaco: Oh, I'm a bit of a voyeur, I guess
Kit Ciaco: I start and hope someone comes by
Kit Ciaco: and hope with equal fervor they don't throw tomatos at me
Kit Ciaco: I was once playing and a lady came and stood very still right next to me
Kit Ciaco: I kept playing and she kept standing
Kit Ciaco: and when I got done I meekly asked if she liked it
Kit Ciaco: she said - Liked what" I don't have my speakers on - I was just looking at that rock over there next to you.
druth Vlodovic: oh no!
druth Vlodovic: ah, poor kit
Kit Ciaco: Well, it worked for both of us, I guess
Kit Ciaco: I enjoyed playing and she enjoyed the rock
Kit Ciaco: I'm actually using the grid as an exercise
druth Vlodovic: that is one way to see it
Kit Ciaco: I haven't "performed" live for years
druth Vlodovic: working your way up to rl?
Kit Ciaco: so it's sort of a way to push myself out of my musical shell
Fox Monacular: Hello Kit and Druth
Kit Ciaco: heheheheh - I don't know if I'm THAT brave
druth Vlodovic: hi fox, grab a seat
Kit Ciaco: but sometimes in the summer I do sit sit down in a remote part of a park and people walk by
Kit Ciaco: I used to quit playing if they got too near
druth Vlodovic: have you been here before?
Kit Ciaco: but this summer I hope to keep on playing
Kit Ciaco: and hope for no tomatoes!
druth Vlodovic: but now you don't
Kit Ciaco: Hi, fox!
Fox Monacular: yes, yes:) I don't believe we've met
druth Vlodovic: lol, free fruit!
Fox Monacular: nice to meet you
Fox Monacular: both:)
Kit Ciaco: I'll wear a raincoat just in case...
druth Vlodovic: no, we're talking (I guess) about being yourself in public
Kit Ciaco: and kissing frogs
Kit Ciaco: in private
druth Vlodovic: another good use of raincoats
Fox Monacular: oh, that;s a tricky thing sometimes
Kit Ciaco: I mean, I may be a voyeur but when I get to the point of kissing frogs I assure you it will NOT be in public view!
Kit Ciaco: Not a voyeur
Kit Ciaco: what am I talking about?
Kit Ciaco: An exhibitionist....
Kit Ciaco: a showoff, actually
druth Vlodovic: you need a frog shaped flute, so you can switch if somone sees you
Kit Ciaco: one who FLAUNTS their foolishness....
Kit Ciaco: sigh
Kit Ciaco: LOL!
druth Vlodovic: kids are funny
druth Vlodovic: they'll walk up and start playing next to someone, or with them
Kit Ciaco: Exactly!
Fox Monacular: kids and rock-n-rollers:)
druth Vlodovic: maybe the entire afternoon, perhaps never learning the other kid's name
Kit Ciaco: I love that about kids!
Fox Monacular: spontaneous jam sessions
druth Vlodovic: ah, do you play music too fox?
Kit Ciaco: sand the whole spontneity!
Fox Monacular: used to... i played the flute in a rock band during undergrad
Kit Ciaco: COOL!!!!!
Fox Monacular: the band wasn't very good:))
druth Vlodovic: I've never been able to show myself that much, I envy both of you, maybe all three
druth Vlodovic: hi oO0Oo
Kit Ciaco: Sometimes the spirit compensates for the notes
oO0Oo Resident: hi everyone :)
Fox Monacular: hi oO0Oo! nice to meet you
Kit Ciaco: Hi, ya, Sam!
oO0Oo Resident: nice to meet you Fox (thinks: spirited away)
Fox Monacular: :) yes
oO0Oo Resident: Love Miyazaki
Fox Monacular: I haven't been in PaB too often lately, there are so many new avis!
druth Vlodovic: hello korel, have you been here before?
Kit Ciaco: Well, that's what I tell myself when I play, Fox
Fox Monacular: yes, me too
Korel Laloix: I am not a fan of much animation, but that was very cool movie.
Korel Laloix: Yes... many times.. thanks.
Kit Ciaco: hi, Korel
Korel Laloix: bozho
Fox Monacular: hi Korel
oO0Oo Resident: Ohiyo Korel
Korel Laloix smiles
oO0Oo Resident: sp?
Korel Laloix: osiyo
Korel Laloix: o si yo
oO0Oo Resident: ty
Korel Laloix: or OSiYo
oO0Oo Resident: Japanese on my mind
oO0Oo Resident rolls eyes at self
--BELL--
Korel Laloix: SO what have I missed?
druth Vlodovic: kit kissing frogs
Kit Ciaco: music, the sea, and frogs
Fox Monacular: I was late too:)
Kit Ciaco: well, yes, that, too
oO0Oo Resident: me too lol
Korel Laloix: I dont care for frog legs I have to say...
druth Vlodovic: we stopped doing anything interesting when others arrived
Kit Ciaco: But I assure you, there was no lipstick involved
Kit Ciaco: I do have my limits!
Korel Laloix: OH... thanks for the reminder... need to order.
Kit Ciaco: I love frog legs - as long as they're attached to living frogs!
druth Vlodovic: besides, it is so hard to put it on them straight
Kit Ciaco: But why would one want to put frog legs on straight?
Korel Laloix: YOu put lipstick on frogs?
Kit Ciaco: But why would one want to put frog legs on straight?
Kit Ciaco: No
Kit Ciaco: I do not put lipstick on frogs
Kit Ciaco: only pigs
Korel Laloix: THank goodness.
druth Vlodovic: it keeps them from jumping away while you apply the lipstick, of course!
Kit Ciaco: I was just alking about frogs being kissed by princesses who oftentimes DO wear lipstick, so I'm told
Kit Ciaco: LOL!
Korel Laloix: I am strongly resisting some Nacy Peolosi comments.
Kit Ciaco: LOL!
druth Vlodovic: I'm proud of you
Kit Ciaco: I'm told they prefer lipgloss over lipstick - the pigs, not the princesses
Korel Laloix curtseys
Korel Laloix: Depends on the occation.
Kit Ciaco: Yes, that is surely true!
Korel Laloix: Gloss is soooo the way to go sometimes though.
Kit Ciaco: I think so, too
Korel Laloix: Love the way it makes my lips looks.
Kit Ciaco: under the heading, "less is more"
Korel Laloix: With a little liner.... wow.
Kit Ciaco: the pigs????
Korel Laloix: Welll, me this time.
Kit Ciaco: Whew! I was about to be worried!
Korel Laloix: Have not been called a pig in a while though.
Korel Laloix: Maybe because ofthe lipgloss.
Kit Ciaco: hmmmm - gosh, now that I think of it, it's been at least a month for me!
Korel Laloix: It can be mildly cliche these days... used so mutch.
Kit Ciaco: Well, heck, most folks wear underpants and that's not a cliche
Kit Ciaco: Well, no wait
Kit Ciaco: I'm ASSUMING!
Korel Laloix: lol
Kit Ciaco: I haven't actually doncted a panty check....
Korel Laloix: doncted?
Kit Ciaco: conducted
Kit Ciaco: with a twist
Korel Laloix: And what did you find?
Kit Ciaco: I don't know - I didn't actually DO the panty check....
druth Vlodovic: have to set up a stand "panty check, need statistical data for thesis"
Kit Ciaco: I felt that would be in bad form, you know what I mean?
Korel Laloix: I preffer the term knickers anyway.
Kit Ciaco: LOL, druth!
Korel Laloix: SOunds like a plan.
Korel Laloix: I will help..... grins
Kit Ciaco: Kickers - yes
Korel Laloix: Another great advantage to being a chick... we have far more choices for underthings.
druth Vlodovic: makes me think of women's boxers
Kit Ciaco: And, with reluctance, but only because of my selfless nature - I volunteer to help with the kiosk as well....
Korel Laloix: Heck no on that.... boi shorts.
Kit Ciaco: If we weren't still recordining I would give you my views on ladies in boxers....
Korel Laloix: Oh do tell
druth Vlodovic: I can edit for PG
Kit Ciaco: Yes - but then the whole world would know that I wear boxers!
Korel Laloix: lol
Kit Ciaco claps hands over her mouth!
Kit Ciaco: LOL!
Korel Laloix: I own a couple of pairs I admit.
Korel Laloix: But I use them more like PJs.
Kit Ciaco: well, it's better than a thong
Kit Ciaco: though I have to say - I have never worn a thong....
Kit Ciaco: so again, I speak of that which I know not....
Korel Laloix: lol... my grandma refuses to do my laundry because of my knickers... wich is OK with me.
Korel Laloix: I am tring out some c-strings.
druth Vlodovic: our chart is coming along nicely, do the boys want to contribute?
Korel Laloix: Odd feeling, but I can see the draw.
Kit Ciaco: Well, we have a strong rule in our house - only ONE rule - everyone washes their own knickers!
Korel Laloix: Probably a good choice.
Korel Laloix: lol
--BELL--
Korel Laloix: I do admit, doing laundry for grandma is sometimes a bit of a trial.
Korel Laloix: But am happy to do so.
Kit Ciaco: I should love to do my granny's laundry for her....
Korel Laloix: I said happy... not love.... lol
Kit Ciaco: I know - for me - both
Kit Ciaco: sigh....
Korel Laloix: OH the lecture I got the first time she saw me in a thong. lmbo
Kit Ciaco: I am happy to report that my granny never saw me in a thong....
Korel Laloix: Trust me... it is much much better that way.
Kit Ciaco: I can only imagine!
druth Vlodovic: I hesitate to ask how it came about that your grandma saw you in a thong
Kit Ciaco: What would have been worse is if I had ever caught HER in a thong
Korel Laloix: Please pass the mind bleach.
Kit Ciaco: LOL - yes,druth - please Korel - share....
Korel Laloix: I know my nightmare themes for the nxt month now.
Kit Ciaco: On the other hand - she was a flapper in the 20's.....
Kit Ciaco: hmmmmmm
Korel Laloix: Flapper.. what does that mean?
Korel Laloix: Heard it used earlier this week as well.
Kit Ciaco: It's ummmm - well, she was a wild thing
Korel Laloix: OH.. found a wiki on it... tanks.
Korel Laloix: wow.. tacky.
Kit Ciaco: OH????
Korel Laloix: But I am sure great at that ime.
Korel Laloix: time
druth Vlodovic: ah, I've got to go, I'm not sure if t's safe to leave the recorder in your hands or not...
Korel Laloix: lol
Kit Ciaco: LOL!!!!!
Kit Ciaco: I shall behave
Korel Laloix: Probably not.
Kit Ciaco: I'm not sure if I shall behave well or poorly - but I SHALL behave....
druth Vlodovic: nonethelss, I'll take the risk, have fun :)
Kit Ciaco: ;)
Korel Laloix: ciao bella
oO0Oo Resident: ntsy Druth
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Korel Laloix: How does one shape a flute Kit?
Kit Ciaco: Well, each flute maker/shaper has their own little nuances
Kit Ciaco: Most folks use some electrical tools
Kit Ciaco: I use only hand tools
Korel Laloix: WHat do you make them out of?
Kit Ciaco: Probably over half of them use blanks, which I use
Kit Ciaco: and then I shape the blanks and tune them
Kit Ciaco: mostly cedar
Kit Ciaco: a good solid dependable wood
Korel Laloix: INteresting... lovely color and smell that way at least.
Kit Ciaco: plus I have strong spiritual ties to cedar
Korel Laloix: Please tell me about that.
Kit Ciaco: each one has its own grain with unique colorsings and markings
Kit Ciaco: very lovely
Kit Ciaco: Well, some of it is history
Korel Laloix: It is.. and lovely scent.
Kit Ciaco: I once owned a cedar grove that held alot of magic for me
Korel Laloix: wow...that does sounds great.
Korel Laloix: I connect more with open grassland than forest.
Kit Ciaco: And they are natural to my region, my ome
Korel Laloix: But that is just me and my spiritual path.
Kit Ciaco: yes, that's what I mean! Home
Kit Ciaco: Exacly!
Kit Ciaco: I lived many years in places other than home
Kit Ciaco: and coming home has been a profound spiritual movement for me
Korel Laloix: I love to sit in nice tall grasses over sitting near trees.
Kit Ciaco: yes!
Kit Ciaco: lovely!
Korel Laloix: May I ask where home is for your?
Kit Ciaco: The land of Kentuck
Korel Laloix: Visited Morehead State Univ a while back.
Korel Laloix: Seemed a nice place.
Kit Ciaco: Really!
Kit Ciaco: KY has three main geographicl regions
Korel Laloix: Long story.. just one college that wa a possibility.
--BELL--
Kit Ciaco: the mountains, the rolling hills, and the upper part of the delta
Kit Ciaco: Each one has its special charm - just like people.... Now, my family is gathering together for our evening. Thank ya'll for your time and shared wisdom!
Korel Laloix: Time to start closing down the office...
Korel Laloix: Ciao
oO0Oo Resident: ntsy Kit :)))
Fox Monacular: take care Korel
Korel Laloix: do na da go hv i
Fox Monacular: nice to meet you
oO0Oo Resident: tc Korel
oO0Oo Resident: ty for bearing with my language blip