2010.11.04 13:00 - speed painting

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Lia Rikugun. The comments are by Lia Rikugun.

    I came with a boxy avatar but didnt know how to change my appearance back..

    Riddle Sideways: Hi Freud
    Freud Jungsten: osiyo
    Riddle Sideways: was in SL, so better come to session
    --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: hey Alf
    Lia Rikugun: haha no its lia
    Lia Rikugun: :)
    Riddle Sideways: Ha, got me
    Riddle Sideways: ah, Alf would never try to sit
    Lia Rikugun: let see if i can change my appearance again
    Riddle Sideways: How did you get an
    Riddle Sideways: Alf suit?
    Freud Jungsten: Nice posture.
    Lia Rikugun: it is in your inventory
    Lia Rikugun: but i forget where
    Riddle Sideways: really?
    Freud Jungsten: That looks painful.
    Lia Rikugun: hello druth and brian
    druth Vlodovic: hi
    Brian Roop: hello all
    Freud Jungsten: osiyo
    druth Vlodovic: we have another boxbot :)
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Druth and Brian
    Lia Rikugun: have you two been here before druth and brian?
    druth Vlodovic: I have
    Brian Roop: once
    Lia Rikugun: ok great
    Lia Rikugun: oh i found it its in "my inventory > library >clothing> cardboard boxbot..."
    Lia Rikugun: (what happens if i take it off?)
    Riddle Sideways: just found it there too
    Riddle Sideways: trouble 'wearing it'
    Brian Roop attends to his breathing, prescinding from the chatter around him
    Lia Rikugun: i dont seem to be able to come back to my previous appearance :)
    Lia Rikugun: well its boxy then
    Riddle Sideways: lol
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Ara
    Freud Jungsten: Do you not feel boxed in?
    druth Vlodovic: hey ara
    Lia Rikugun: hello ara
    Brian Roop: hello ara
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: hi brian hi all

     

    what is a philosopher?

    Freud Jungsten: So a question from a conversation I had in one of my RL classes this morning......
    Freud Jungsten: What is a philosopher?
    Freud Jungsten: Anyone have an opinion?
    Freud Jungsten: And a follow on questions.... are philosophy teachers/proffesors necessarily philosophers?
    Riddle Sideways: hmmm, some one who does a lot of philsophy
    druth Vlodovic: I'd say philosophising is more an activity than an ideantity
    Riddle Sideways: 2nd ques is probably a trick
    Riddle Sideways: those that can't do= teach
    Brian Roop: it would depend on the nature of the course
    Brian Roop: someone teaching the history of philosophy shuld understand it at least from the outside
    Brian Roop: without necessarily practicing the art
    Freud Jungsten: lol... we came to the conclusion that being unable to think is a requirement for teachign universtiy philosophy... but we came to the same conclusion for other topics as well... smiles
    Wol Euler: hello everyone
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: looking at the different termollogies about to philosophise and who philosphers are i would say they are people who want to know the full truth about us and the world we livce in, where they look they find what the need to know and then teach what they know to others ..... maybe???
    Brian Roop sighs
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Wol
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: i cant spell to save my life
    Lia Rikugun: hi wol
    Freud Jungsten: osiyo
    Brian Roop: osiyo, wol
    Freud Jungsten smiles
    druth Vlodovic: I'd say philosophising would be more about analysis and thought, so doing philosophy and learning it would have to be done seperately
    Riddle Sideways: you ok, wol
    Riddle Sideways: the trick pillow
    Wol Euler: gah, the lag monster is chewing on my butt.
    Brian Roop: do we need to consider what philosophy is, or what it should be?
    Lia Rikugun: wol does not have a tshirt for me
    --BELL--
    Freud Jungsten: So what makes on e a good philospher vs a bad one?
    Alfred Kelberry: oi :)
    Riddle Sideways: Second Bozy approachs
    Riddle Sideways: x

     

    Alfred came and we both looked the same :)

    Lia Rikugun: haha hi alfred
    druth Vlodovic: uh oh, trouble :)
    Wol Euler: hello alf
    Lia Rikugun: lets fight!
    Alfred Kelberry: lia my sister! :)
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: i dont think you can have a good or bad philospher
    Riddle Sideways: ah, Alp has a sharf
    Lia Rikugun: HAHAHA
    Brian Roop: do we mean good and bad in a moral sense, or as a metter of competency
    Alfred Kelberry: yep, a scarf :)
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: cause they are just observing what they feel is right.....
    Freud Jungsten: myabe both?
    druth Vlodovic: I suppose a closed-minded philosopher would be bad, other than that I'd have to agree with ara
    Lia Rikugun: haha so funny!!!
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: how can you have a closed minded philospher??
    Lia Rikugun: i am sorry i stlole your appearanceactually i dont know how to switch back
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: lol
    Alfred Kelberry: lia, no, i like having a sister :)

     

    reality versus appearances

    Brian Roop: are we going to talk all day about appearances?
    Brian Roop: what about reality?
    Alfred Kelberry: reality is percived by our senses which create appearance :)
    Lia Rikugun: (:))
    Wol Euler raises an eyebrow.
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: reality mmm but some say reality is what our senses see......
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, ara... you look lovely in this white dress :)
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: thankyou Alfred
    druth Vlodovic: my reality is all inside my head, but my senses keep adding things
    Brian Roop: is there any reality at all in second life?
    Freud Jungsten: I asked the origional question as we got to talking abut our most useless classes in our undergrad degrees.... and most folks agrred on philosophy.
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, woly... you're a cloud to me :/
    Wol Euler: we are real, brian.
    Wol Euler: the people who speak here, are real peoplle
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: but what is rea wol?
    Wol Euler: hello mick
    Mickorod Renard: hello all
    Brian Roop: hello mick
    Lia Rikugun: hi mick
    Alfred Kelberry: ara, i don't think thsi question has any definitive answer :)
    Alfred Kelberry: mick :)
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: ara, you look like a bride :)
    Alfred Kelberry: perfectly innocent :)
    Brian Roop: if all of us but one agrees that our friends here look like boxes, does that one person's disagreement make the conclusion false?
    Mickorod Renard: it makes it unconclusive
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    druth Vlodovic: philosophy is to teach us to seek new ways of thinking, if it does that it will seem useless but have long term positive effects
    Brian Roop: because one person professes to perceive them differently, does that mean we cannot reach a conclusion about how they do in fact appear?
    Alfred Kelberry: brian, in a social group terms it makes you either a leader or a madman :)

     

    Arabella is writing a book about "life and love and finding your way through the storms"

    Arabella SpiritWeaver: i look how i look to be in costume for the way i want to look, as well as that i am in costume for the book i am writing
    Alfred Kelberry: what book, ara?
    Brian Roop: i think, and that is not a criticism just a statement of fact as i perceive it, that they look like boxes
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: look at art what one person sees isnt what another does reality i think is jutrs what w wish to see
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: one about life and love and finding your way through the storms.......
    Mickorod Renard: I am colour blind,,yet I am not at odds with people who are not described as colour blind
    Alfred Kelberry: ara, is it a novel?
    Alfred Kelberry: mick, you would never know if you didn't pass the test :)
    Mickorod Renard: or fail the test
    druth Vlodovic: thats because you use similar definitions for things that those with colour use
    Riddle Sideways: ah so the one disenter would need to be tested
    --BELL--
    Brian Roop: but no one can explain color to someone who has never seen it?
    Mickorod Renard: ara,that sounds like a story about life from the perspective of someone sensitive enough to think about it
    Alfred Kelberry: *just found out that ara is not the ara he thought she is* :)
    Wol Euler laughs.
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: hehe :)
    Alfred Kelberry: ok, sorry :)

     

    colorblindness and the concept of color

    Brian Roop: so, is the concept of color impossible to explain to one who has never see it?
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: well that would be a story i might write one day lol
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: maybe brian
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: but there is ways
    Brian Roop: but it is real nonetheless
    Alfred Kelberry: you're a writer, ara?
    druth Vlodovic: some people with limited colour blindness have lived a good long time without knowing, or so I have heard
    Mickorod Renard: I was using the idea of colour blindness to highlight the notion that seeing something diferently to most doesnt need t change ones ability to live with the rest of the world or nor does it make me believe everyone else is wrong
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: well not sure i can call myself one this is my first book so only the future will tell if i am if the future really exists that is
    Wol Euler: my boss's father didn'T find out until he was in his 70s
    Wol Euler: (that he was colourblind)
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: i know of someone who was color blind
    Brian Roop: i apparently have trouble with certain pastel shades
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: green he would see as red and blue he would see orange he didnt know till hlate in life that this was so
    Brian Roop: in my teens bought a shirt i thought was gray and it turned out to be lavender
    Mickorod Renard: mine is only a deficiency,,not total,,but its significantly bad to cause some problems
    Alfred Kelberry: druth, yes. in fact, who knows what red is really look like? it's what your brain sees. but when you were shownon red light as a kid and being told it's red, so it's red for you :)
    Mickorod Renard: yes, i often pick up pink shirts instead of blue
    Wol Euler: I have a friend who's completely colourblind, sees only gray tones
    Wol Euler: so black and white films are in colour for her :)
    Mickorod Renard: wow,,that is rare
    Brian Roop: well no, i would say they are in b/w for her
    Brian Roop: she just doesn't see the difference
    Alfred Kelberry: for her, they're just normal movies :)
    Wol Euler nods.

     

    Mick used to paint

    Mickorod Renard: I tried painting in greys only for a while,,to circumnavigate the frustration,,then settled for expressionism
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: i know of a man who is half blind in one eye and fully blind in another and instead he can see other peoples auras most things are in that color
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: you paint as well mick???
    Alfred Kelberry: interesting
    Mickorod Renard: I used to
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: why did you stop?
    Mickorod Renard: that is a comlex issue
    Brian Roop: maybe we are touching on the idea of "normal"?
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: aah sorry to hear that
    Mickorod Renard: complex
    Mickorod Renard: I set fire to them all
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: oh my
    druth Vlodovic: ikes!
    Lia Rikugun: really?
    Alfred Kelberry: wow
    Wol Euler: drastic.
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: aaah mick
    Alfred Kelberry: mick...
    Mickorod Renard: I think 2 survive
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: bad period huh
    druth Vlodovic: I was just thinking how interesting it would be to see colour paintings done by someone paritally colourblind
    Lia Rikugun: hello kiki
    druth Vlodovic: hi ki
    Kiki Walpanheim: hi all
    Brian Roop: hi kiki
    Lia Rikugun: nice to meet you kiki, have you been here before?
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: hi kiki nice to meet you
    Riddle Sideways: hi Kiki
    Alfred Kelberry: oi, kiki
    Wol Euler: helo kiki, nice to see you again
    Mickorod Renard: well,,its an interesting thing,,as creator one has the right to distroy too,,I think
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Kiki Walpanheim: nice to see you again too
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Kiki

     

    children's creativity

    Alfred Kelberry: mick, how about babies? :)
    Kiki Walpanheim: hiya
    Brian Roop: intellectual property, you can do with at as you see fit
    Mickorod Renard: that is the exception..but then life is a gift given from another source
    druth Vlodovic: babies tend to have their creative efforts destroyed by parents overly concerned with cleanliness
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Brian Roop: and good order
    Alfred Kelberry: they're afraid they won't fit in
    Brian Roop: they get stuff out, but they never put it back
    Brian Roop: should the same be true of creative works?
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: true mick
    Alfred Kelberry: it's still there, just cluttered behind various social concepts
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: and druth
    Mickorod Renard: I do tire sometimes of my sons creative mess in his bedroom
    Alfred Kelberry: meditation is a tool to unclutter this mess and see your "creative" self :)
    Alfred Kelberry: mick :)
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: kids are mindful without any meditation :)
    --BELL--
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: aaahhhh but that is a self expression see it as that he is there you get to cuddle him if he is young..... or say hi to him if he is a teen...... think about for a moment that your son has been taken away from you, the one you love the most been taken and gi9ven to someone esle......
    Mickorod Renard: I actually had a period where my artwork involved setting fire to it as part of the process
    Brian Roop: shhhhhh
    Mickorod Renard: oops
    Alfred Kelberry: *looks up at the bell*
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Mickorod Renard: yes Arabella,,that is a dificult notion,,the frustration of certain aspects of parenthood knowing also that the breaking of the tie will be so painful

     

    "love - is risk, is blind, is the only pure thing"

    Brian Roop: love is risk
    Mickorod Renard: love is blind
    Alfred Kelberry: ara, yes... i think a concept of detachment (or dropping) in the context of kids or loved ones is puzzling :)
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: love is the only pure thing in this world sorrry i will be quite for a whiel.....
    Brian Roop: in the measure that love is pure, one risks pain
    Alfred Kelberry: "Love is real, real is love..." :)
    Riddle Sideways: bye all, gotta go
    Lia Rikugun: bye riddle
    Wol Euler: bye riddle
    Mickorod Renard: bye riddle
    Alfred Kelberry: *looks at lia* heh, boxy girl with a pink tail :)
    Lia Rikugun: hey bro
    Lia Rikugun: ;)
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Mickorod Renard: I sometimes wonder whether some folk do a risk assessment on love
    Alfred Kelberry: *plays with lia* :)
    Alfred Kelberry: hehe
    Mickorod Renard: there are those who risk,,and those who love something that wont let them down,,like perhaps a mountain
    Lia Rikugun: hih
    Alfred Kelberry: mick, i think you do when you date a girl or decide to get married :)
    Mickorod Renard: that is risk
    druth Vlodovic: to open yourself is to risk
    Alfred Kelberry: hmm, what does buddhism say about risk?
    Mickorod Renard: I think the richness is in the risk,,but it will be painful
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: the love i speak offf is that force that contains us all.......
    druth Vlodovic: even loving a mountain is to open some part of your heart and make yourself open to the world
    Mickorod Renard: that is safe
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: lol not that you can put a name to that the closest name i can give is love
    Alfred Kelberry: mick, "will be painful" part is transient, as in nothing stays the same
    Alfred Kelberry: druth, yes
    Brian Roop: friends, i must go
    Brian Roop: thank you for this time with you
    Alfred Kelberry: bye, brian
    Lia Rikugun: bye brian

     

    loving someone, something stable, less stable

    Mickorod Renard: I wonder how many of us who love a mountain or love something somewhat permanent ad so on,,have been hurt by love of someone less stable
    Mickorod Renard: bye brian
    Wol Euler: bye brian, take care
    Agatha Macbeth: Evening all
    Wol Euler: hello aggers
    Lia Rikugun: hi agatha
    Alfred Kelberry: mick, "less stable"?
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, boxes x 2
    Lia Rikugun: :)
    Mickorod Renard: I recon its a journey to taste love of the instable type,,and learn to become unnafected by selfish loss
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: ah to be hurt a pain of desire a thingwe call love but we end in the fire........
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: lol sorry
    Alfred Kelberry: i like it :)
    Mickorod Renard: he he ..thats a good one Ara
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: ty!
    Alfred Kelberry: "burn, burn, burn... the ring of fire..." :)
    --BELL--
    druth Vlodovic: to just love
    Mickorod Renard: I was just thinking,,a rare moment for me,,,and realized that one uilds a love for the subject one paints,,then when its over the realisation is that the painting is a far cry from the real thing
    druth Vlodovic: without loving *something*

     

    Yaku arrived,stayed shortly to leave with Mick to WoK

    Mickorod Renard: hey yaku,,wasnt it wok tonite?
    Lia Rikugun: hi yaku
    Wol Euler: hello yau
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yeah, i am on my way
    Wol Euler: +k
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: druth thanks for inviting me here its helping greatly!..... mick thepainting is a form of self it is the cry we can not say and sometimes helps others
    Wol Euler: bye yaku :)
    Mickorod Renard: wasnt it an hour ago?
    Agatha Macbeth: Now I think Mick
    Mickorod Renard: yikes,,gotta go
    Agatha Macbeth waves
    Mickorod Renard: ok,,c u there
    Lia Rikugun: byebye mick
    Wol Euler: bye mick
    Mickorod Renard: bye bye Lia,,and all
    Mickorod Renard: x x
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: see you mick take care
    Mickorod Renard: am tp,ing,,i know I am lazy
    Agatha Macbeth: Why not just walk?
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: hehee :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh Micky Micky
    druth Vlodovic: does tping out of the cricle mess with the recorder?
    druth Vlodovic: when I do it it doesn't say "stopped recording" until I log off
    Lia Rikugun: (will leave too, take care everybody, nice to see you!!)
    Agatha Macbeth: Not sure, to be honest
    Alfred Kelberry: bye, boxy girl :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Take care Liabox
    Lia Rikugun: bye boxy boy

     

    at this moment I left, and will leave the following uncommented..


    Wol Euler: no, the recorder will record as long as at least one guardian is here
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: whoops
    Wol Euler: bye lia
    Alfred Kelberry: ok, folks, i'm off
    Alfred Kelberry: thank you for the company
    Agatha Macbeth: We know :p
    Alfred Kelberry: welcome to pab, ara :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye bye Alf
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: sorry got thrown out lolol
    Wol Euler: wb
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: ty
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: i am thinking of doing a painting whilst blindfolded when i get home tonight who'd be intersted in seeing the video of that????
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Agatha Macbeth: Picasso?
    Wol Euler: I'd be c urios to see the result, certainly
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: shoud be fun lol
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: to see if i keep the brush on the papper should be the funniest thing
    druth Vlodovic: lol, I've seen how fast paint
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: aaah that is speeded up
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: by 30 lolo
    druth Vlodovic: oooh
    --BELL--
    Qt Core: Hi all
    Wol Euler: hello qt
    Agatha Macbeth: Buona sera Qt :)
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: sorry guys i am gonna have to go i really want to go home and do this painting will be on tomorow with luck and thanks so much for the great time here i really appreciate this :) you dont know how you have helped me today
    Qt Core: bye, have fun with the painting
    Agatha Macbeth: Paint happily Arabella
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: i wil :) ty
    druth Vlodovic: have fun ara
    Arabella SpiritWeaver: not sure it will be happy though
    Wol Euler: paint well, then )
    Agatha Macbeth: Wait til you take off the blindfold to say that...
    Agatha Macbeth: I haven't seen that jumper in a long time Qt
    Qt Core: since last winter ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay!
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: it must be cold tonight in Italy
    Agatha Macbeth: Winter draws on
    Qt Core: not really, around 12/15 C in the day
    Agatha Macbeth: Wonder what it's like in the Alps?
    Qt Core: snow above 1800
    Agatha Macbeth: Whoa
    Agatha Macbeth: The skiers will be happy anyway
    Qt Core: yes, some places announced earlier opening
    Agatha Macbeth: What's the name of the big ski resort up there? I can never remember
    Wol Euler: St Moritz?
    Wol Euler: Davos?
    Qt Core: Cortina ?
    Agatha Macbeth: Isn't St Moritz in Switzerland?
    Qt Core: yes
    Wol Euler: oh right.
    Agatha Macbeth: I was gonna say
    Wol Euler: nevermind :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Kurt Cobain?
    Qt Core: Not a skier myself so i don't rem,ember the names ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Well i only watch it on TV (occaisionally)
    Agatha Macbeth: My skiing memeories tend to be stuck in the era of Klammer and Zurbriggen :(
    Qt Core: same here but with Tomba and Compagnoni ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah - Tomba the bomba!
    Agatha Macbeth: I remember him
    Agatha Macbeth: Wasn't he a policeman?
    Qt Core: yes, a Carabiniere
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh, with the rifles - wow
    Qt Core: most of the skiers in italy are policemens or park guards
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    --BELL--
    druth Vlodovic: I've got to go
    druth Vlodovic: thanks guys, it was interesting
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Druth
    Qt Core: bye druth
    Wol Euler: bye druth, take care
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeah, bye Kiki :-)
    Qt Core: what was the topic, it seemed to be paintings ?
    Agatha Macbeth: Speed painting apparently
    Wol Euler: blindfolded sped painting.
    Wol Euler: +e
    Agatha Macbeth: Blindfold
    Agatha Macbeth: Jackson Pollock would dubtless be proud
    Agatha Macbeth: +o
    Qt Core: (suppressed a bad joke)
    Wol Euler: or ray charles
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Qt Core: painting/drawing is my second worst art ability
    Agatha Macbeth: Worst is a relative term :)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Qt Core: non c'e' limite al peggio (italian saying, there is no end to the worst/bad)
    Agatha Macbeth smiles
    Agatha Macbeth: The worst in may case...
    Agatha Macbeth: *my
    Qt Core: the absolute bottom of my art talents is music, i could not be proud when i say i've made people cry many tears with my (compulsory) playing music in school
    --BELL--
    Wol Euler: oh daer :)
    Wol Euler: hallo bert
    Agatha Macbeth: Poor Qt :(
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Berti
    Qt Core: not really, Agatha, poor Qt sister (she was the one who usually cried)
    Agatha Macbeth grins
    Bertram Jacobus: hy beings ! :-)
    Qt Core: Hi Bert
    Bertram Jacobus: whaow - i see wol as cloud (!)
    Agatha Macbeth: I think we all do
    Wol Euler nods
    Wol Euler: lag :(
    Qt Core: yes
    Bertram Jacobus: why is that ?
    Wol Euler: bad connnection tonight, for whatever reason
    Agatha Macbeth: The Lindens have her clothes :-)
    Wol Euler: yeah
    Bertram Jacobus: hm. okay. poor you
    Agatha Macbeth pictures Philip Linden in an Avid outfit
    Wol Euler laughs.
    Bertram Jacobus: i left the sim to change ma chlothes ...
    Wol Euler: that would look so much better than his usual.
    Wol Euler: or even his new.
    Agatha Macbeth: True
    Bertram Jacobus: and returned then
    Wol Euler: actually, I'm going to clear ca che and reboot. back in a few minutes
    Bertram Jacobus: i don´t know lindens, chars or persons from that company ...
    Qt Core: i hope that not finding 95% of my shirts/jacket is due to lag :-(
    Agatha Macbeth: The cloud will be back!
    Bertram Jacobus: sometimes a change of the viewer also helps i heared qt
    Agatha Macbeth: Well my Inv. all seems to be here
    Agatha Macbeth: Not sure one viewer is a ny better than another where lag's concerned
    Agatha Macbeth: *any
    Qt Core: other folders seem ok, so i still have hopes, we'll see at next logins
    Agatha Macbeth: Do you still get those spam IMs at login?
    Bertram Jacobus: spam IM ?
    Agatha Macbeth: Qt was getting grief spammed a while ago
    Bertram Jacobus: from a special person ?
    Qt Core: no, disappeared in a couple weeks
    Agatha Macbeth: From Nazis I think :((
    Bertram Jacobus: what ?!
    Qt Core: a short name starting with blank spaces, very strange
    Bertram Jacobus: how could THAT be ?!
    Qt Core: yes, the messages was against jews and blacks i think
    Bertram Jacobus: why do you think "nazi" ?
    Bertram Jacobus: oh
    Bertram Jacobus: very strange
    Agatha Macbeth: Well, as long as it has stopped - no worries
    Bertram Jacobus: and you have no idea why that reached you qt ?
    Qt Core: no
    Bertram Jacobus: strange ... ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay!!!
    Bertram Jacobus: yeah wol - you made it !
    Wol Euler: am I visible?
    Qt Core: i was very 'quiet' as a sl user
    Bertram Jacobus: at least better then before ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Sure are :p
    Qt Core: in those weeks
    Wol Euler cheers
    Agatha Macbeth: Just waiting for the clothes now...
    Agatha Macbeth: I *think* I know that dress :)
    Bertram Jacobus: no top, grey bottom - rest ok - ok : all ok, but bare top, grey bottom *giggle*
    Wol Euler: :)
    Wol Euler: Serene sensations, petit noir
    Bertram Jacobus: in perfect paradise that could be fixed perhaps fast ...
    Agatha Macbeth makes a note
    Bertram Jacobus: you could try to tp there and come back then - how do you see yourself wol ?
    Qt Core: have to go, bye all
    Bertram Jacobus: bye qt
    Agatha Macbeth: Ciao Qt
    Wol Euler: bye qt
    Qt Core: have fun... and or clothes ;-)
    --BELL--
    Wol Euler: Aggers, Bert just gave me a LM to an "intentional community". want ot have a look?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay :)
    Bertram Jacobus: okay - then i come too - if you don´t mind (?) ... :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay x 2
    Wol Euler: well, of *course* with you, bert.
    Wol Euler: shall we?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yep
    Bertram Jacobus: ty - but - what does "intentional community" mean plz ? :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe we' will find out
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Yaku
    Agatha Macbeth: Just waiting to be TPed by Wol
    Yakuzza Lethecus: well i get there too
    Agatha Macbeth: :)

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