The Guardian for this meeting was Lucinda Lavender. It was attended by stevenaia, Paradise and Calvino. The comments are by Lucinda Lavender.

Lucinda Lavender: Hi Stevenaia
Lucinda Lavender: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Luci, quiet night?
Lucinda Lavender: yep:)
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Lucinda Lavender: you came here at a good time tho
stevenaia Michinaga: I had a busy evening
stevenaia Michinaga: oh?
Lucinda Lavender: I decided to change my shirt and in so doing lost all the other clothes:)
Lucinda Lavender: all is well now tho...
Lucinda Lavender: busy night...
stevenaia Michinaga: all? your invrntory is empty?
Lucinda Lavender: no but suddenly most of the current clothing came off with the change of shirt
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, be careful :)
Lucinda Lavender: putting on a pab shirt was what did it...caused me to drop everything else:)
stevenaia Michinaga: random disrobing can be a concern
Lucinda Lavender: just a surprise
stevenaia Michinaga: ironic, PaB cause you to drop things :)
stevenaia Michinaga: drop
Lucinda Lavender: yes:)
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
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stevenaia Michinaga: glad everything's back
Lucinda Lavender: yes:0
Lucinda Lavender: had a great trip east and getting back into the swing out west
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, how long were you out here
Lucinda Lavender: one week
Lucinda Lavender: plus a day
stevenaia Michinaga: next time tell the locals and we could easilly join you for dinner sometie
Lucinda Lavender: aw thanks:)...will do
stevenaia Michinaga: there are an number of us near the philly area
Lucinda Lavender: next time :)
stevenaia Michinaga: you come east often
Lucinda Lavender: well at least every year since college started
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Lucinda Lavender: I like travel but we only go once in a while...usually end up getting the kids back home too
Lucinda Lavender: now it gets dark so early!
stevenaia Michinaga: nods
Lucinda Lavender: that switch happened on the trip so it feels like a new kind of Seattle
Lucinda Lavender: the winter one
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, getting cooler and darker, nt a good combination'
Lucinda Lavender: at yoga this week we talked about darkness being restful and a time to receive
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, something your eyelids bring to you
stevenaia Michinaga: I used to love the end of yoga class the resting
Lucinda Lavender: yes!
stevenaia Michinaga: you so quickly just relax
Lucinda Lavender: sometimes I find myself drifting toward sleep
stevenaia Michinaga: yes
Lucinda Lavender: and other times when approaching that there is a jump from not breathing I think
Lucinda Lavender: complete with adrenaline
stevenaia Michinaga: hmm, I must have always been to tired for that :)
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Lucinda Lavender: i was reading some of the chat logs..
Lucinda Lavender: nice to find that to come back to
stevenaia Michinaga: what did you find?
Lucinda Lavender: One from 11/7 about indirect connections I think the name was
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Lucinda Lavender: thinking about the topic of leaderless groups
stevenaia Michinaga: hmmm
stevenaia Michinaga: like this one? (yes- I thought later)
Lucinda Lavender: how is your ...I forget.. maybe a group you meet with ...going
stevenaia Michinaga: the iChing group with Pila?
Lucinda Lavender: yes...was thinking about this place, and dream circle I am part of...
Lucinda Lavender: think about letting go and letting the structure lead
stevenaia Michinaga: which group?
Lucinda Lavender: I am more used to it at dream circle but like to imagine that it might be happening other places as well...
Lucinda Lavender: I guess when everyone agrees to be silent together it is a form of allowing that goes on
Lucinda Lavender: was remembering your mentioning a group that might meet on skype or sl
stevenaia Michinaga: interesting how this group has a special cohesion
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, a group of tai chi group was starting a Tao discussion group outside our tai chi lessons
Lucinda Lavender: yes...I remember that now:)
stevenaia Michinaga: they are meeting at a local grocery story cafe next saturday at 11:00 am to discuss how to arrange things for future meeting, 
stevenaia Michinaga: we shall see how things go since there is resistance to an online meeting
Lucinda Lavender: ah:)
stevenaia Michinaga: so there are leaders of sorts so far
stevenaia Michinaga: but they have not met yet
Lucinda Lavender: sounds interesting and like there is potential
stevenaia Michinaga: in fact one of the people who had this idea runs the retreat facility and is in out Tai Chi Class
stevenaia Michinaga: class
stevenaia Michinaga: is in our
--BELL--

stevenaia Michinaga: not sure how much knowledge there is regarding Tao, perhaps just an interest to get stated
Lucinda Lavender: thinking about the IChing and how it might give some hint of how to proceed with a meeting...
stevenaia Michinaga: join Pila and the group :)
stevenaia Michinaga: he had great knowledge of iChing and is very helpful in explaining from beginer to long time users like bruce
Lucinda Lavender: yes...I enjoyed being there the few times I went...then I got kind of busy:(
Lucinda Lavender: got concerned I was fragmenting myself:( which is sad kind of:(
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, but since there is no structure, you can re-join anytime
Lucinda Lavender: I will then:)
stevenaia Michinaga: I think he enjoys the novice questions as well as the questions from the more experienced practicioners
Lucinda Lavender: Hi PARADISE:)
Lucinda Lavender: oops
stevenaia Michinaga: hello Paradise
Paradise Tennant: Smiles hiya lucinda good to see you :)
Paradise Tennant: hey steve :)
Lucinda Lavender: good to see you as well
Paradise Tennant: how are you two :)
stevenaia Michinaga: I am good
Lucinda Lavender: I am fine...how about you Stevenaia?
Lucinda Lavender: and you?
Paradise Tennant: smiles all well here
Paradise Tennant: went out to see a movie with my brother and one of his friends :)
Paradise Tennant: home to be home :)_
Lucinda Lavender: is that the name?
Paradise Tennant: lol no my type happy to be home
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Cal:)
Paradise Tennant: the film's name hmm
stevenaia Michinaga: :) Freudian fingers
stevenaia Michinaga: hello Cal
Lucinda Lavender: good to see you Cal
Calvino Rabeni: Hi, good evening everyone
Paradise Tennant: was about a hiker whose arm was trapped by a fallen boulder he broke and sawed it off .. sigh
Paradise Tennant: hiya cal
Lucinda Lavender: yikes...
Paradise Tennant: parts I good not watch
Calvino Rabeni: I remember when that happened
Paradise Tennant: but very well done and very moving
stevenaia Michinaga: I heard about that
Paradise Tennant: called 127 hours
Lucinda Lavender: I have not heard of it..but can imagine it as hard to watch
Paradise Tennant: well lots of dark humor
Paradise Tennant: and . it conveyed wonderfully how precious life seems when it .. is slipping away
Lucinda Lavender: wow
--BELL--

Paradise Tennant: I cannot watch violence . at all but this was engaging ..based on the video recording he made while it was happening
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
stevenaia Michinaga: wow, he had video with him
Lucinda Lavender: such a situation
Paradise Tennant: yes an ipod .. a camera .. a video recorder .. but not a pocket knife ;( and of course a very experienced climber and canyoner who took off without telling anyone where he was going
Lucinda Lavender: I am thinking about 10 essentials
Paradise Tennant: smiles what are they :)
Lucinda Lavender: and how the knife is in there somewhere...
stevenaia Michinaga: 10 essentials?
Lucinda Lavender: matches...
Paradise Tennant: lip balm :)
Lucinda Lavender: backpackers essentials
stevenaia Michinaga: aww
Paradise Tennant: compass
Paradise Tennant: candle
Paradise Tennant: water can
Paradise Tennant: rope
Lucinda Lavender: I am thnking I once knew...
Paradise Tennant: hat
Lucinda Lavender: you are doing well there Paradise...
Paradise Tennant: map
Paradise Tennant: flashlight
Paradise Tennant: smiles do a lot of hiking and use to canoe a lot :) not so much lately
Paradise Tennant: camel water bag is handy
Paradise Tennant: first aid kit
Paradise Tennant: and oohhh of course cell phone :)
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Lucinda Lavender: :D
Paradise Tennant: once got lost cross country skiing
Paradise Tennant: wearing a thin racing suit
Lucinda Lavender: did it get dark?
Paradise Tennant: left at about 9 am .. got completely lost at around ll am
Paradise Tennant: did not meet up with a person until 9 pm
Paradise Tennant: very cold day
Lucinda Lavender: whoa!
Lucinda Lavender: wow
Paradise Tennant: skiing unsigned snowmobile tracks that icey and ridged ..
Paradise Tennant: though I might freeze to death
Lucinda Lavender: scarey
stevenaia Michinaga: nods
Paradise Tennant: yes
Paradise Tennant: once it got dark was very discouraged
stevenaia Michinaga: did you follow a light?
Paradise Tennant: miles and miles and miles of unmarked trails
Paradise Tennant: just woods no lights
Paradise Tennant: but happily i was about 50 kms out of the park and i was lucky enough to have a teenage boy come by on his snowmobile ..
Lucinda Lavender: then what happened in this story
Paradise Tennant: just about jumped him
Paradise Tennant: his mom drove me back to the ski lodge
Lucinda Lavender: nice!
Paradise Tennant: my friends were there and about 40 snow mobilers
Paradise Tennant: super embarrassing
Lucinda Lavender: had they gone looking?
Paradise Tennant: they were starting a search party .. by sector
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
Paradise Tennant: always packed a compass after that on a cloudy day there is no way to get bearings
stevenaia Michinaga: so they found you?
Lucinda Lavender: right!
Paradise Tennant: smiles yes :)
Lucinda Lavender: something to think about
--BELL--

Paradise Tennant: adventures in the wild smiles
Paradise Tennant: had a friend who was shooting some rapids once and he and his canoe shot right between the legs of a moose
Paradise Tennant: both parties were rather alarmed by it :)
Lucinda Lavender: :)))
stevenaia Michinaga: big moose
Paradise Tennant: they are big :)
Paradise Tennant: he had almost no time to react .. ducked and was moving so fast .. that he was a long way away by the time he could look back :)
Calvino Rabeni: Good night everyone, I have dinner awaiting
Paradise Tennant: good nite cal :)
Lucinda Lavender: night cal
stevenaia Michinaga: night Cal
Lucinda Lavender: hard to believe what had happened I bet
Paradise Tennant: yes
Lucinda Lavender: had an experience with a mountain goat once
Paradise Tennant: listens :))
stevenaia Michinaga: oh?
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
Lucinda Lavender: well, hiking in the mountains where there are no bathrooms of course...you just use a quiet secluded place...
Lucinda Lavender: and I was approached by the goat who just came right up as I backed off and it drank the pee:)
stevenaia Michinaga: laughs
Paradise Tennant: lol
Paradise Tennant: wow
Lucinda Lavender: sorry for th graphic nature but goats can be a problem I guess...
Lucinda Lavender: it shocked me at the time
stevenaia Michinaga: I bet
Paradise Tennant: not to mention their culinary preferences :)
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
Lucinda Lavender: someone was killed by a goat recently out here
Lucinda Lavender: surprising...
stevenaia Michinaga: I lead such a mundane life
stevenaia Michinaga: no goats, no kayaks
Lucinda Lavender: :)))
Paradise Tennant: http://www.getlostmagazine.com/mcbee/2004/0412pee/pee.html
Lucinda Lavender: yes! exactly!
Lucinda Lavender: that place is one I have hiked in actually...
Paradise Tennant: lost in youtube apparently there are many health benefits from drinking fresh urine .. brad pitt is a fan
Lucinda Lavender: the olypics are where it happened tho
--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: interesting
Lucinda Lavender: The Enchantments are an amazing place...
stevenaia Michinaga: sometimes I learn just a bit to much here
Lucinda Lavender: whisper's sorry:)
Paradise Tennant: smiles
stevenaia Michinaga: no, not at all, jsut unexpected
Paradise Tennant: lol
Paradise Tennant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMZaCOaLf9Y
Lucinda Lavender: sometimes those surprises are what wake me up!
stevenaia Michinaga: bed time for me
stevenaia Michinaga: night all
Lucinda Lavender: By Steve...
Lucinda Lavender: movie time for me
Lucinda Lavender: In the Loop it is called
Paradise Tennant: good night you too :)
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Paradise Tennant: enjoy :)
Lucinda Lavender: thanks you too:)
Paradise Tennant: smiles