2011.02.17 13:00 - Garden Visions

The Guardian for this meeting was Bruce Mowbray subbing for Lia.

The photos are by Bruce Mowbray.

Lugh Fehr: ahh no its a group hmm don't remember when i joined hehe im lugh :)
Lugh Fehr: hey bruce :)
Mar Rodas: hi Bruce
Lugh Fehr: please to meet yah :)
Bruce Mowbray: Greets, salutations, namaste, and Good Day to you all!
Lugh Fehr: back at you :)
Bruce Mowbray zooms in on Lugh . . .

--BELL--
Lugh Fehr smiles
Bruce Mowbray: Hey ya, Aph!
Lugh Fehr: hey Aph
Bruce Mowbray thinks. . . Toga ! Toga! Toga!
Lugh Fehr: hehehe
Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing....
Lugh Fehr: im one that votes that togas should come back in fashion
Bruce Mowbray: Bring 'em back, Lugh -- !
Aphrodite Macbain: togas for yoga?
Mar Rodas: hello Aphrodite
Lugh Fehr: hehe both hehe
Aphrodite Macbain: nice head Lugh
Lugh Fehr: tnx want one -  i got a bunch?
Mar Rodas: this is ma 3rd time in these gatherings , are you talking about something interesting? what is a Toga?
Lugh Fehr: tnx bruce :)
Bruce Mowbray: A toga is a wrap-around sort of robe that Romans wore.
Mar Rodas: yes
Lugh Fehr: this what im wearing is a toga hehe
Mar Rodas: I know
Aphrodite Macbain: very handsome. Must be cool in the summer
Mar Rodas: ahhhh I see the toga is wearing Lugh
Bruce Mowbray: wb, third time, Mar.
Mar Rodas: I like people I like silence, I like this practice of 90 seconds...
Mar Rodas: but I am trying to make sense of the chats
Aphrodite Macbain: Hmmm
Lugh Fehr: i bet you're from east Europe
Lugh Fehr: am i right?
Mar Rodas: no
Lugh Fehr: where you from then?
Mar Rodas: go on guessing
Lugh Fehr: Poland?
Mar Rodas: noooo
Aphrodite Macbain: Mars!
Bruce Mowbray: somewhere in Asia, I'm guessing.
Mar Rodas: my name is Mediterranean
Lugh Fehr: you have to unwrap it hehe
Bruce Mowbray: some South Seas island, then?
Mar Rodas: yes I am from Spain but leaving in California
Mar Rodas: and you with your red toga?
Bruce Mowbray: Ahhhh -- that wonderful South Seas island called Spain -- would love to visit there.
Lugh Fehr: nice Spanish im from Malta
Mar Rodas: are you?
Aphrodite Macbain: bienvenido!
Mar Rodas: have you been in Rodas island?
Bruce Mowbray: not I.
Aphrodite Macbain: I have. Hasta muchos anos
Lugh Fehr: nope never its near Turkey?
Aphrodite Macbain: Rhodes Island is full of ruins no?
Bruce Mowbray: Si, pero yo tiene anos mas mucho que Aph!
Bruce Mowbray: Muchos mas!
Lugh Fehr: oh America
Mar Rodas: yes it is near Greece and north Africa
Aphrodite Macbain: I think that's an insult Bruce....
Aphrodite Macbain: in el mediterraneo
Bruce Mowbray: Colossus of Rhodes?
Mar Rodas: yes¡
Aphrodite Macbain: This is very awkward wearing this box

Bruce Mowbray: To say that one is older than someone else? That's an insult?
Aphrodite Macbain: should I be doing something else with it?
Lugh Fehr: hehe you have to open it to get the mask out hehe
Aphrodite Macbain: teasing
Lugh Fehr: hehee
Bruce Mowbray: .. and you have to go to a sandbox to open the box, Aph.
Bruce Mowbray: But it's rather cute, I do say.
Aphrodite Macbain: :-) Oh I tried but OK can I drop it on the floor here?
Aphrodite Macbain: Ok I'll do it later
Aphrodite Macbain: Cute
Lugh Fehr: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SN7Pko_jCM&feature=autoplay&list=MLGxdCwVVULXcaZ1CXFRCa7US--ojnqJ9c&index=10&playnext=10
Bruce Mowbray: OH GOSH -- Please don't drop it -- just detach. . . There you are.
Bruce Mowbray remembers that time when someone dropped an onigokko here. It played for days and days!
Aphrodite Macbain: Something to try on a rainy day when I'm bored with myself
Bruce Mowbray: (very disturbing to the birds at night, you know).
Aphrodite Macbain: I didn't realize that would happen
Bruce Mowbray: No noise with the Paper Bag Head, though.
Lugh Fehr: hehehe
Aphrodite Macbain: My screen keeps going black. What does that mean?
Bruce Mowbray: oh dear....
Lugh Fehr: it means Saturn is in the house of Mars
Bruce Mowbray: I don't know but it sounds ominous, Aph.
Lugh Fehr: hehee
Aphrodite Macbain: Oh yeh= bob marleee
Bruce Mowbray: cooool!
--BELL--
Aphrodite Macbain: no Tosh
Agatha Macbeth: Hi all
Agatha Macbeth: HI WOL!!! :)))
Wol Euler: hello everyone
Aphrodite Macbain: Hiya aggers, wol
Wol Euler: HI AGGERS!!!
Aphrodite Macbain: Wol- how are you feeling?
Lugh Fehr: hey aga and he Wol
Mar Rodas: Hi Wol
Bruce Mowbray: Hey ya Wol.
Wol Euler: tired. Just got in from work half an hour ago
Agatha Macbeth: The daily grind
Wol Euler: otherwise ok :)
Bruce Mowbray: Hey ya, Aggers.
Wol Euler: very grind-ish
Agatha Macbeth: Yo Brucie
Bruce Mowbray: sorry to hear you're tired, Wol. Set 'er down and set a spell. . .  (as we say in America, probably not in Germany though).
Agatha Macbeth: Good to see you anyway....
Aphrodite Macbain: would coffee help?
Wol Euler gets out her whittlin' stick.
Aphrodite Macbain gets out her knitting

Bruce Mowbray gets out his single-malt scotch.
Agatha Macbeth: Would Bratwurst help?
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Wol Euler: actually it probably would :)
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Wol Euler: salt and fat generally improve the mood
Aphrodite Macbain: Bratwurst and mustard
Wol Euler: that's what keeps McDonalds in business, not meat.
Lugh Fehr: a nice spliff?
Aphrodite Macbain: a cuppa?
Agatha Macbeth: True
Wol Euler: whiskey is a pretty good idea :)
Agatha Macbeth: 15 year old whiskey
Wol Euler wanders off to the kitchen to check the supplies
Bruce Mowbray agrees whole-heartedly.  (but Bruce cannot afford it).
Agatha Macbeth: Don't hit the bottle!
Aphrodite Macbain: good fur everything that ails ya
Agatha Macbeth: Except alcoholism
Bruce Mowbray: No, do not hit the bottle -- pour some in a glass and join us.
Aphrodite Macbain grins at the scintillating repartee
Agatha Macbeth looks up 'scintillating'
Lugh Fehr: there are a lot of good relaxing herbs out their you should try kavakava and kratom they very chilly
Aphrodite Macbain: lots of scints
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Aphrodite Macbain: kratom - can you split it?
Lugh Fehr: split ?
Agatha Macbeth: Dunno what it is
Aphrodite Macbain: split the kratom
Lugh Fehr: its a herb
Aphrodite Macbain: he he
Agatha Macbeth: Take off the kr- and maybe
Lugh Fehr: what do you mean split?
Aphrodite Macbain: ah
Lugh Fehr: hehehehe
Aphrodite Macbain: split the atom- playing
Agatha Macbeth: If your name's Rutherford
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Eliza.
Lugh Fehr: hey Eliza
Aphrodite Macbain: Hiya Eliza
Agatha Macbeth: Lizzie babe :))
Eliza Madrigal: Warm and cheery greetings, everyone :)
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Kit!
Wol Euler: back with a 28 yr old Glenmorangie

Bruce is writhing with envy.
Wol Euler: hello kit, Eliza
Eliza Madrigal pans around the circle to see the delightful appearances
Lugh Fehr: he kit
Agatha Macbeth: And Kit (without bike)
Aphrodite Macbain: Mmm- could you spare a drop?
Wol Euler grins and holds out the bottle
Kit Ciaco: Hi, yta, folks -- sorry I'm late - was taking out the garbage - didn't realize there was so much trash to haul!!!
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Kit!
Agatha Macbeth: Hic
Aphrodite Macbain: that was fast Aggie
Kit Ciaco: yes, I about feel naked, Aphro!
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Mick.
Agatha Macbeth: What was?
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Mick
Aphrodite Macbain: hic
Mickorod Renard: hi Guys
Lugh Fehr: hey Mick
Eliza Madrigal: Hiya Mick
Wol Euler: hello Mick
Eliza Madrigal: Hiya Kit
Mickorod Renard: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Is ara coming too?
Aphrodite Macbain: Hiya Mick
Mickorod Renard: no doubt it
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Agatha Macbeth: oh poo
Mickorod Renard: she is very busy in rl
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Aphrodite Macbain: doing what Mick?
Mickorod Renard: erm,,lots
Agatha Macbeth: Looking for Wayne Rooney?
Aphrodite Macbain: pretty outfit Eliza
Mickorod Renard: he he
Mickorod Renard: Hi Kit,
Kit Ciaco: Hi, Mick!
Mickorod Renard: :)
Bruce Mowbray loves Eliza's Celtic knots.
Eliza Madrigal: gratsi Aph.... you look lovely as a romantic blonde too
Mickorod Renard: hey, i am into Celtic stuff
Agatha Macbeth zooms in

Mickorod Renard: lets av a look
Eliza Madrigal: :) Auspicious knot
Aphrodite Macbain looks closely to see where the knots are
Bruce Mowbray thinks -- blond Aph's having more fun now. . .
Eliza Madrigal: hehe Bruce
Aphrodite Macbain: yes- Clairol was right!
Eliza Madrigal grins, yes we're all worth it
Agatha Macbeth: Hm, looks like a crest of some sort
Aphrodite Macbain: :-) that's another ad.
Eliza Madrigal: oh :)
Aphrodite Macbain: lots of them out there
Eliza Madrigal: And Lugh.... care to expound on your interesting display today?
Mickorod Renard: ahh,,i se now
Aphrodite Macbain wonders whether she could expound
Eliza Madrigal: Mar, it is nice to see you again btw :)
Agatha Macbeth: As long as she doesn't expand
Eliza Madrigal: hehe... I'm just getting it... unknown comic?
Aphrodite Macbain: That I do, all too regularly
Lugh Fehr: imim paper bag hea man :)
Aphrodite Macbain: nice smile Lugh
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Lugh Fehr: tnx :P
Aphrodite Macbain: you could play with Boxy. U'd be quite a pair
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: yikes Aph
Mickorod Renard: I had that funny feeling last night, as I stood in my garden. the one where you feel all the surrounding living things,,like tree's etc,,watching me and then where I felt like part of the oneness, like a part of a larger knowing
Bruce Mowbray listens intently to Mick. . .
Eliza Madrigal: ((( Mick ))) Nice...
Mickorod Renard: it reminded me of some of the lessons we have had from Pema
Bruce Mowbray thinks -- Oh yes!
Mickorod Renard: is it called something, like one of those funny appart
Mickorod Renard: appart?,,where did that come from?
Bruce Mowbray: "Larger knowing" --- "Larger allowing" ----
Eliza Madrigal: the time exploration is about this in part... boundaries of inner/outer....
Mickorod Renard: I want to read up on that before the Assisi retreat
Bruce Mowbray: yes. and the sense that all boundaries are delusions.
Mickorod Renard: in a way, my absence from PaB has been a time of reflection ,,like getting to grips with what I have tried to understand
Eliza Madrigal: hmm
Bruce Mowbray: some excellent reports are coming in this week (gives a wink to Eliza).
Agatha Macbeth: Did it work?
Mickorod Renard: a sort of dropping ..he he
Mickorod Renard: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Good :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes amazing reports... thanks Bruce :)
Mickorod Renard: there is only so much a limited brain like mine can absorb
Agatha Macbeth: Mini sponge? ;p
Mickorod Renard: micro
Agatha Macbeth: Ha
Bruce Mowbray: I'm enjoying the fact that the reports are actually very simply stated - - and short.
Bruce Mowbray: because I also have a very simple mind,.
Eliza Madrigal: snapshots
Lugh Fehr: im sbrb 1 sec
Wol Euler smiles.
Mickorod Renard: yes, the one I read was like that
Bruce Mowbray: bye, Aph.
Mickorod Renard: bye Aph
Agatha Macbeth: 'Keep It Simple Stupid'
Eliza Madrigal: Smootch
Agatha Macbeth: ;-)
Wol Euler: bye Aph
Eliza Madrigal: my report was similar to your sharing Mick -  that last week I found myself sheltered by a huge tree, that this week I knew was not outside myself....
Agatha Macbeth: Oh has she gone?
Mickorod Renard: wow, nice Eliza

http://wiki.playasbeing.org/PaB_Books/Magic_of_Time/Time_Sessions/Weekly_Reports/2011%2f%2f02%2f%2f18%3a_Reports
Eliza Madrigal: it seems a profound kind of listening
Eliza Madrigal: WB Aph
Agatha Macbeth: Hello again
Bruce Mowbray: Eliza sheltered by the huge tree of life -- with others playing all around there - while waiting for her daughter from school.
Mickorod Renard: I think we are held back by our resistance to stray too far from normality
Bruce Mowbray: wonderful.
Agatha Macbeth: Yggdrasil
Bruce Mowbray: wb, Aph.
Wol Euler: invisi-aph
Agatha Macbeth: I see you
Eliza Madrigal: Bruce I was startled by how similar the reports are sometimes too...
Wol Euler: ah, yes, so do I now
Aphrodite Macbain: whew. crazy times
Bruce Mowbray remembers "I see you" from the movie AVATAR.

Mickorod Renard: the funny thing is, although I have experienced some of these things before, it always seems a revelation when it happens again
Agatha Macbeth remembers I see you Baby by Groove Armada
Bruce Mowbray agrees with Eliza about the similarity of reports -- and I NEVER read others' reports until I've posted my own.
Eliza Madrigal: realizing that when Maxine says we offer one another of our space, etc ... that is the same communication with the tree
Bruce Mowbray: so -- a synchronicity of Mind.
Eliza Madrigal: yes yes yes
Wol Euler: hello sam!
Eliza Madrigal: Hi oO0Oo!
Agatha Macbeth: Hello O
Mickorod Renard: hi oOOOo
Bruce Mowbray: OH! That is the same thing Mick was just talking about, Eliza.
Lugh Fehr: bk hellow ooo
Aphrodite Macbain: Hello yOu
Bruce Mowbray: Hello, ooooOOOoooOOOoooOOOooo.
Eliza Madrigal nods @ Bruce
oO0Oo Resident: :) everybody
Mickorod Renard: what are you looking at Bruce?
Mickorod Renard: the report?
Bruce Mowbray looks at eternity in an hour (and checks his clocks).
Wol Euler shakes some sand from her shoes
Mickorod Renard: are you on hold again Wol?
Bruce Mowbray: I was reading Eliza's report and thinking about your experience in the garden of last night, Mick.
Aphrodite Macbain: which report?
Aphrodite Macbain rearranges her brain
Wol Euler: thinking about the line about 'seeing eternity in a grain of sand'
Mickorod Renard: ahh,,i dont know if my laptop can handle two windows
Bruce Mowbray: The TIME SESSION reports for this week, Aph.
Eliza Madrigal: mmmm
Mickorod Renard: oh yes Wol
Aphrodite Macbain: oh thanks, Bruce
Eliza Madrigal: well the thing is that we communicate in various layers as a community sometimes....
Bruce Mowbray: (link given above -- probably while Aph was out . . . )
Mickorod Renard: I have thought about the 'grain of sand' issue too
Aphrodite Macbain: yes. sorry, I crashed again
Bruce Mowbray: "layers" --- and these are perhaps "vertical" . . . with iso-morphs all the way up and down?
Eliza Madrigal: so, for instanc,e while the retreaters were drumming above, some of us were saying that drumming would be a good idea below.. that kind of thing....
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: yes :)
Aphrodite Macbain: that's the way communication often works, multi-layered
Aphrodite Macbain: But we never come back together at the same place
Kit Ciaco: and some of it seemingly transparent
Eliza Madrigal nods... another thing AVATAR was good at showing...
 Eliza Madrigal: :)Aphrodite Macbain thinks she should take out the DVD and look at it again

Bruce Mowbray ponders the idea of Community as a force of mutual-generation and co-creation.
Aphrodite Macbain: please say more, Bruce
Mickorod Renard: that was a lovely report Eliza, thank you
Eliza Madrigal: most welcome Mick, thanks for reading... sharing your garden :)
Bruce Mowbray: OK -- Well, I've been thinking of groups that come together to CONSUME -- and comparing those to groups that come together to CREATE. . .
Eliza Madrigal: mmmm
Aphrodite Macbain: can you give examples?
Aphrodite Macbain: having a dinner party with friends is both
Bruce Mowbray: Football game audiences -- come together to consume (like TV audiences).
Kit Ciaco: interesting, Bruce!
Kit Ciaco: Do you reckon a single group could do both simultaneously?
Lugh Fehr: yes very interesting observation
Bruce Mowbray: But here in PaB -- although some say we are "not real" -- we come together to CREATE.
Aphrodite Macbain: yes, vicarious entertainment vs participatory
Aphrodite Macbain: I think so Kit
Bruce Mowbray: and that, to me, is truly remarkable. . . because at this time I am not experiencing any groups that create - in RL.
Eliza Madrigal: simultaneous I think is the vision
Mickorod Renard: sometimes what we create is a culmination of consumed energies, that we let burst forth into a new life
Kit Ciaco: What an enchanting thought!
Aphrodite Macbain: In the art world- theatre, music, dance, communities work together to create, Bruce
Mickorod Renard: a mélange of idea's
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, indeed, Aph, but unfortunately none of those are available to me in RL.
Aphrodite Macbain: collective creation is what it's called
Agatha Macbeth: Mélange a trois
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Kit Ciaco: And in all those areas, Aphrodite, we are also consuming - I'm sitting here trying to imagine times when we don't do both at the same time.
Aphrodite Macbain: Blancmange a quatre
Eliza Madrigal: wandering the garden sometimes there are barren spots and blooming spots...various things making time and space for other things...
Wol Euler: zhehehehhe
Kit Ciaco: like breathing
Mickorod Renard: its odd Bruce, i too feel a little alone in RL in that there seem no groups that fulfill my needs
Agatha Macbeth: Your garden sounds like mine...
Kit Ciaco: we are consuming and creating at the very same time....
Lugh Fehr: creation needs destruction to exist
Aphrodite Macbain: yes kit. nothing wrong with doing both
Kit Ciaco: absolutely!
Aphrodite Macbain: does it Lugh?
Bruce Mowbray: Sitting back - drinking brewski's -- testosterone brimming over. . . being mere audience of American football -- There's an example of a CONSUMPTION audience-group.
Wol Euler: not much creation in that.
Mickorod Renard: yet in my work I feel enriched by the creative flow both from me to others and visa versa
Aphrodite Macbain: I think a certain amount of bonding must go on Bruce
Lugh Fehr: to create anything i mean you need to destroy the material and forge it into something new
Wol Euler: actually you could expand that to watching *anything* on TV not just sport
Agatha Macbeth nods
Aphrodite Macbain: not destroy but transform
Kit Ciaco: maybe not destroy so much as transform?
Aphrodite Macbain: SNAP!
Kit Ciaco: ECHO!
Kit Ciaco: LOL!
Lugh Fehr: yep that's a better word hehe
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Wol Euler: :)
Bruce Mowbray: [`·.] APPLAUSE!! [.·´]
Eliza Madrigal: well in a certain way of being any activity would be a creative one...
Mickorod Renard: is it creative without a witness?
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Cyber
Kit Ciaco: yes, Mick
Aphrodite Macbain: are you leaving us cybersufi?
Wol Euler: hello cyber
Kit Ciaco: because each of us is our own audience of one
Aphrodite Macbain: or arriving
cybersufi Resident: no just arrived
Lugh Fehr: its all in the Hindu trinity destruction preservation and creation
Bruce Mowbray: welcome, Cyber.
Mickorod Renard: sorry, my keyboard sees slw
Eliza Madrigal: arrived to applause no less
Agatha Macbeth: Is he coming or going? :p
Eliza Madrigal: that's the way to start at the end :)
Aphrodite Macbain: You were here earlier
cybersufi Resident: thank you for the warm welcome
Agatha Macbeth: Or finish at the beginning
Eliza Madrigal: hehhe
Kit Ciaco: erkomi
Agatha Macbeth: Same to you
Mickorod Renard: better to come at the end
Aphrodite Macbain: bless you!
Kit Ciaco: Koine means "I am coming" AND "I am going"
Eliza Madrigal: somehow that sounds less satisfying, ag :-)
Wol Euler hands Kit a Kleenex
Mickorod Renard: than never at all
Aphrodite Macbain: in what language, Greek?
Eliza Madrigal: hm.... maybe time for workshop....
Kit Ciaco: yes
Kit Ciaco: Koine Greek
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Mickorod Renard: :)
Wol Euler: huh
Eliza Madrigal: Nice to see everyone
Aphrodite Macbain: Koine?
Wol Euler: bye Eliza, take care
Agatha Macbeth: Evxaristo
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Liz
Lugh Fehr: bye Eliza
Bruce Mowbray: OH! I totally forgot about WoK workshop.
Aphrodite Macbain: Hello to you too
Eliza Madrigal: getting my sense of direction....
Mickorod Renard: bye all, gonna sit quiet at wok
Bruce Mowbray: I need to go now also.
Wol Euler: :)
Agatha Macbeth: I do that too
Kit Ciaco: I gotta run finish evening chores, too! Thanks for your time and good thoughts!
Bruce Mowbray: Thanks, everyone!
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! all. I must be going to. I've been sitting here for almost 4 hrs. :-(
Wol Euler: bye bruce, bye Mick
Lugh Fehr: bye-bye Bruce
Wol Euler: bye kit
Wol Euler: bye Aph
Wol Euler: bye everyone.
Lugh Fehr: bye Mick
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye!
Bruce Mowbray: Bye, everyone -- and thank you.
Lugh Fehr: bye everyone who's leaving
Agatha Macbeth: 4 hours?
Lugh Fehr: hey Sufi the book arrived and it perfect timing to read it tnx so much :)
cybersufi Resident: which book was that
Lugh Fehr: the inner teachings of Taoism its the kind of book which i have to read over and over again to really get
Mar Rodas: what is the most interesting for you of the book?
Wol Euler: my dears, I'm going to move on. I have some errands to run, then I'm going to bed.
cybersufi Resident: ah right excellent book that straightens a lot of things out that have been distorted
Wol Euler: goodnight all, it was lovely to see you again.
cybersufi Resident: by Wol
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Wol, be good
Lugh Fehr: bye bye Wol
Wol Euler: <3
Mar Rodas: by Wol
Lugh Fehr: it's about transformation of the character the exact place where i am in life
cybersufi Resident: Tai Chi is worth doing also, Taoist Tai Chi society have lessons in many cities
Mar Rodas: Yes in general Taoist thought is really about transformation
Lugh Fehr: i used to do tai chi now i only do free style tai chi hehehe
Agatha Macbeth: Think I'll toddle off to WoK - take care all
Mar Rodas: I like bodily practices