2011.02.19 19:00 - Full Moon

The Guardian for this meeting was Pema Pera. The comments are by Pema Pera.

Pema Pera: Hi Rosecrucian!
--BELL--
Rosecrucian Roeth: Hi pema, How i s our day going?
Pila Mulligan: greetings Pema and Rose
Pema Pera: Nice to meet you. and my day is fine, thank you
Pema Pera: Hi Pila!
Rosecrucian Roeth: Yo, Pila, How are you doing?
Pila Mulligan: Pema I had another physics question ut I gave up trying to formulate it :)
Pila Mulligan: fine thanks, and you Rose?
Pema Pera: :-)
Pila Mulligan: hi Sharon
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Pila, Peit and Rosecrucian :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: oops
SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
Rosecrucian Roeth: M, My, the plot thickens as the da ylenthins.
Pema Pera: hi Sharon!
Pila Mulligan: something ot do with seeing the light at the origin of the unsiverse
Pila Mulligan: hi Steve
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Stevenaia
Pema Pera: hi Steve!
Pema Pera: getting busy here quickly, even on a Saturday night!
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Pema, Pila Rosecrucian
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Sophia
SophiaSharon Larnia: the wind didnt blow awat your internet connection Steve? :)
stevenaia Michinaga: no, quite wild out there
SophiaSharon Larnia: it is :)
Pema Pera: and all that after such a balmy day yesterday!
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, much variety
SophiaSharon Larnia: is the wind due to solar flares too?
stevenaia Michinaga: different kind of wind
Pema Pera: not that I know of :-)
Pema Pera: but a very serious solar wind could be more dangerous than any hurricane
Pema Pera: in blowing out anything electric for quite a while
Pema Pera: the last time it happened was 150 years ago
Pema Pera: a big solar flare aimed directly at the Earth
SophiaSharon Larnia: not much to blow out then
Pema Pera: if it would happen now, probably all powerlines would go dark
Pema Pera: and many if not most satellites would have their circuitry fried
Pema Pera: yes, indeed, Sharon!
SophiaSharon Larnia: been paying attention to the environment actutely lately, and with much happening in the world, I feel this deep vulnerability
Pema Pera: it's like asteroid's impacts, few and far between but *when* they happen we have a real problem
Pema Pera: but alas politics works on 4-year or so time scales . . .
SophiaSharon Larnia: acutely*
Pema Pera: not 200 years
Pema Pera: (wondering now whether everybody in pondering our future . . . . or meditating in silence?)
SophiaSharon Larnia: i was pondering the silence :D
Pema Pera: :-)
SophiaSharon Larnia: I really liked your time the report, and all of them actually, i wish that I could make the sessions
SophiaSharon Larnia: it sounds really hard to describe :)
Pema Pera: thanks, Sharon! And feel free to contribute to the reports, even if you can't make the sessions!
stevenaia Michinaga: hello Cal
SophiaSharon Larnia: I do write little things, and have for a long time, but dont finish them
SophiaSharon Larnia: sentences
Pila Mulligan: hi Cal
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi CAl
Pema Pera: hi Calvino!
Calvino Rabeni: Good eveninig !
SophiaSharon Larnia: been thinking a bit about this edge too
stevenaia Michinaga: edge?
SophiaSharon Larnia: but less in real space, more in interal space
SophiaSharon Larnia: chapter 11. Space of Pemas book
--BELL--
Pema Pera: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/PaB_Books/Magic_of_Time/11._Space
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi anonymous1
Pema Pera: Hi anonymous1
anonymous1: hallo
SophiaSharon Larnia: thanks Pema, I cant open the net on my comp atm
Pema Pera: (for Steve)
Pema Pera: Hi anonymous1, feel free to join us!
stevenaia Michinaga: I began reading that recently Pema :)
anonymous1: Waht are you doing?
Pema Pera: we get together a few times a day to chat about the nature of reality, and everything else, and we have a wiki http://wiki.playasbeing.org/ -- We record our conversations there. Do you mind being included in our blogs?
Pema Pera: any feedback would be greatly appreciated, Steve!
Pema Pera: it's really fun to write book chapters and to get feedback in real time, almost
anonymous1: Wow. What a waste of time. You could be learning to play a musical instrument or speaking another language
stevenaia Michinaga: happy to pema, will look at it with that eye
Pila Mulligan: he already speaks afew anon1
Pema Pera: which languages do you speak, anon1?
Pema Pera: one of my next projects, Steve, is to make a "reader's digest" version of that book that I'm writing on the web :-)
Pema Pera: since I realize there is a bit too much already for quick browsing
stevenaia Michinaga: that sounds scry
stevenaia Michinaga: scary
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: it already seems condensed to me
stevenaia Michinaga: perhaps "clif notes" might sound better
Pema Pera: they were even translated into Dutch, believe it or not (reader's digest)
Pila Mulligan: is it sceintifically safe to suppose time has existed for about 13 billion years
Pema Pera: oh, I love "cliff notes" !!
Pema Pera: clock time, sure, Pila
Pila Mulligan: so it is finite then?
Pema Pera: yes
Pila Mulligan: hmm
Pema Pera: although we don't know what happened before the big bang
Pema Pera: or what will happen from now on
Pema Pera: would you like to take a seat, anonymous1?
stevenaia Michinaga: finite on the back end, but who knows about its inevitable demise
Calvino Rabeni: I admire authors who have opened their creative process to participation on the web.. getting feedback DURING their process of working out the ideas, through blogs and discussions online
Pema Pera: hi, anonymous2
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi anonymous2
stevenaia Michinaga: (or front end, rather)
anonymous2: Are these the people?
Pema Pera: anonymous2, feel free to join us here. we get together a few times a day to chat about the nature of reality, and everything else, and we have a wiki http://wiki.playasbeing.org/ -- We record our conversations there. Do you mind being included in our blogs?
anonymous1: Yes
anonymous2: Is it for real?
Pema Pera: and if you don't like to join us, would you then please just leave?
anonymous1: Yes. Look at their wiki
anonymous2: I did. LMFAO
anonymous1: I thought you'd get a kick out of it
Pema Pera: if you don't leave now, I will eject you
anonymous2: Set the landmark and boogie?
Pila Mulligan: au revior
Pema Pera: that was good riddance
Calvino Rabeni: Yes
Pema Pera: long time since I ejected somebody
SophiaSharon Larnia: okay...
Calvino Rabeni: Had a few trolls around lately
Pema Pera: over a year I think
SophiaSharon Larnia: i ejected some a couple of weeks ago or so
Pila Mulligan: a fellow here last week was a bit cranky
SophiaSharon Larnia: 3
Calvino Rabeni: Well there was that one that showed in your session recently, SSL
Pema Pera: now the question is whether to erase that whole history or not
stevenaia Michinaga: I suspect late winter would be the season for such things
Pema Pera: from the logs
SophiaSharon Larnia: i didnt
Pema Pera: hahaha, Steve!
SophiaSharon Larnia: i left it in
Pila Mulligan: probably -- it would feed their need to read it
Pema Pera: I asked them, and they didn't say no, so . . .
SophiaSharon Larnia: I changed the names
Pema Pera: ah, good idea!
Pema Pera: "anonymou"
Pema Pera: +s
Pema Pera: I'll do that
Pema Pera: thanks, Sharon!
SophiaSharon Larnia: and some number that was put in chat, in case the web picked up a reference
Pema Pera: what do you mean, Sharon?
SophiaSharon Larnia: any word we use here is picked up somewhere
SophiaSharon Larnia: any link
SophiaSharon Larnia: Cal may be able to say more about that
Pila Mulligan: the NSA may have a whole index of keywords generated by PaB
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Calvino Rabeni: And Google
Pema Pera: :-)
Pila Mulligan: back to time?
Calvino Rabeni: They have a new personalized voice recognition service for their phone service
SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
Calvino Rabeni: the service recognizes your particular voice
Calvino Rabeni: leading to better voice search accuracy
Pila Mulligan: voiceprints?
--BELL--
Calvino Rabeni: Each time you use the service, it learns and adapts to the individual voice quality, resulting in improved accuracy and .. who know what else personalization can accomplish ... focusing the search results based on a model of each person.
Calvino Rabeni: A lot like what we each do when trying to make sense of what others say
Pema Pera: my life will became harder with too much voice recognition -- with my Dutch accent
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Pema Pera: I may have to follow an "erase your accent" course . . . .
Calvino Rabeni: Except that the service will learn your particular accent
Pema Pera: already I am having trouble with phone services that require you to do multiple choice with voice
Pema Pera: hopefully!
Calvino Rabeni: and account for it with greater precision
Calvino Rabeni: doing the adaptation instead of you
Pema Pera: yes, that's the secret of Google
Pila Mulligan: an idea I've played with recently is to imagine the entire history of time in all the universe, from the begining of time to the present, consolidated and condensed into a small drop of water in a saucer
Calvino Rabeni: But you're right Pema, there are problems with "half-intelligent" systems
Calvino Rabeni: including ourselves
SophiaSharon Larnia: wow Pila
Pila Mulligan: it helps in terms of relativity to grasp the idea of time as an illusion
Pema Pera: and us as an atom in the drop, Pila?
Pema Pera: our life time?
Pila Mulligan: yes
Pila Mulligan: so what are 50 years there?
Pila Mulligan: an atom of an atom?
Calvino Rabeni: It's like people used to look up at the stars at night and feel tiny and insignificant
Pila Mulligan: yes
Pila Mulligan: relatively speaking we are
Pila Mulligan: except to our relatives, of course
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Pema Pera: but at the same time, the whole universe appears within our consciousness
Pema Pera: so which one is bigger?
Pila Mulligan: se we are also the drop of water maybe
SophiaSharon Larnia: sort of relates to what i was thinking lately too Pila, as all nows happening in one moment
Pila Mulligan: All One !
Pema Pera: hi anonymous3!
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi anonymous3
Pila Mulligan: yes Sharon
Pila Mulligan: timeis an illusion
Pila Mulligan: we just give them sequence and duration
anonymous3: hello
stevenaia Michinaga: yet we do so well at measuring the illusion
Pema Pera: Hi anonymous3, we get together a few times a day to chat about the nature of reality, and everything else, and we have a wiki http://wiki.playasbeing.org/ -- We record our conversations there. Do you mind being included in our blogs?
Pema Pera: it's really nice to image different time scales
Pema Pera: like in powers of ten
stevenaia Michinaga: or scale of size, like those tiny string things
Pema Pera: :-)
stevenaia Michinaga: yet they are both measurable at some level, or wil be someday, (if they exist)
Pema Pera: yes, either directly or else indirectly
Pila Mulligan: but our definition of moments or nows and the history they create is subjective
stevenaia Michinaga: but only by humans?
anonymous3: I wish I could reach out through the Internet to each and every one of you
anonymous3: And choke you to death
Pila Mulligan: you are!
Pila Mulligan: oh,
Pila Mulligan: first thought was nice
SophiaSharon Larnia: hmm
Pema Pera: another eject -- busy day
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
SophiaSharon Larnia: x 2 Pema
Pila Mulligan: \what a night of crackpots
SophiaSharon Larnia: (i meant i did too)
Pema Pera: ah, I wonder who was first!
Pema Pera: I guess you were
SophiaSharon Larnia: you
stevenaia Michinaga: checks the phases of the moon
SophiaSharon Larnia: and nods
Pema Pera: he seemed to disappear just when I confirmed the eject
Pila Mulligan: just past full
stevenaia Michinaga: solar flares?
Pila Mulligan: ego flares
Pema Pera: (I've added all three to the ban list as well -- saves future work)
Pila Mulligan: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: ive been a nurse for a long time, and although there is an old wives tale of this, and we speak of it often, there really doesnt seem to be a correlation. I dont have hard data on that tho
stevenaia Michinaga: thx
Pila Mulligan: moon phases Sharon?
Pema Pera: oh, that's quite likely
SophiaSharon Larnia: right
Pila Mulligan: I feel them for sure
--BELL--
Pila Mulligan: like a cloudy day and a sunny day, there's a darker night and a brighter night
SophiaSharon Larnia: of course, impeded ideas such as this must come from somewhere :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: inbedded*
Pema Pera: evolution may well have prepared us for the difference between moonlit nights and relatively much more dark nights
Pila Mulligan: got it :)
Pila Mulligan: dreams on full moon nights can be interesting too
SophiaSharon Larnia: by causing a more unstable sensitivity, sounds like a strange way to prepare
Pila Mulligan: well, maybe the lighted night is just a bit more stimulating
Pila Mulligan: than the darker one
SophiaSharon Larnia: i thought it had something to do with the energy on the cells :)
Pila Mulligan: sensible :)
Calvino Rabeni: The evolution idea is more realistic
Calvino Rabeni: like we get extra alertness
Calvino Rabeni: to be able to function better on moonless nights
Pila Mulligan: also sensible :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: why not more alertness to function on dark nights
SophiaSharon Larnia: more danger of not seeing predators
stevenaia Michinaga: I never thought about my dream activity relative to the phases of the moon, it must be a very subtle corrilation
Pila Mulligan: cultures that used lunar calendars had whole sets of rules relating to farming, families, fisihing, etc
Pema Pera: perhaps we relax more on moon-full nights then, Sharon, becoming a bit more silly, not having to defend us?
SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
Calvino Rabeni: I am feeling a bit antsy with this moon .. more dreams, more recall
Calvino Rabeni: more physicality in the dreams
SophiaSharon Larnia: ive been very anxious too, but have tracked this feeling with the moon and there hasnt seemed to be a link
Pila Mulligan: the moon may have been the earliest measurement of time extended beyond days
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
Calvino Rabeni: That will be interesting in the future to have an objective tracking of personal state ... e.g. something that could correlate the moon and anxiety automatically
Calvino Rabeni: Sorry, though, I'm slipping into a different orbit here
Calvino Rabeni: Good night, thanks everyone
SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe good night Calvino
Pema Pera: bye Cal!
stevenaia Michinaga: night cal
Pila Mulligan: bye Cal
stevenaia Michinaga: where is the "ban
Pila Mulligan: the Hawaiian word for full moon, Akua, is the same word used for god
stevenaia Michinaga: "button
Pema Pera: oh, you click on the top line, Steve, which says "Bieup 67, 38, 103
SophiaSharon Larnia: Pila :))
stevenaia Michinaga: thanks
Pema Pera: then click on the "access" tab
stevenaia Michinaga: and jsut add them
Pema Pera: down right you find the list of banned people, and you can add individuals very easily
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Pema Pera: yes
Pema Pera: click add, find, select, and check whether they have been added to the list
SophiaSharon Larnia: Ive right clicked on the avatar and a window pops up,eject, and eject and ban
Pema Pera: ah, that is easier!
SophiaSharon Larnia: you can try on me if you want :)
Pema Pera: thanks, Sharon!
SophiaSharon Larnia: haha
Pema Pera: good to know
stevenaia Michinaga: I think I go it
stevenaia Michinaga: got
Pema Pera: oh, in the beginning of PaB we did that, Sharon
Pema Pera: practicing on each other -- was fun!
SophiaSharon Larnia: ha!
Pema Pera: I wonder whether I can eject myself . . . .
SophiaSharon Larnia: right click to 'more' I missed that part
SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
stevenaia Michinaga: although, they will have to truly try my patience, (ot threaten me)
SophiaSharon Larnia: no, i just tried Pema
Pema Pera: me too, sad to say
Pema Pera: I'd love to auto-eject
Pema Pera: like pilots do
SophiaSharon Larnia: the ones i banned, came here calling people horrible names
stevenaia Michinaga: isn't trying to eject yourself boarder on self abuse?
SophiaSharon Larnia: hehehe
Pema Pera: well, I'd have to try to find out, Steve :-)
Pema Pera: now banning your self is yet another matter . . .
--BELL--
stevenaia Michinaga: bye Pema
Pema Pera: for now I'll just send myself off to sleep :)
Pila Mulligan: bye Pema, nice to spend some time with you :)
Pema Pera: nice seeing you all again!
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Pema :)) take care!
SophiaSharon Larnia: im quite lunar myself, Pila :)
Pila Mulligan: :) it seems natural enough
SophiaSharon Larnia: but still want to the data on humans :D
SophiaSharon Larnia: to see*
stevenaia Michinaga: data on what?
stevenaia Michinaga: activity, dreams?
Pila Mulligan: nad if a farmer for some reason found success with a planting parciular crop on a particular lunar phase, well why not :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: studies on how the moon affects people, those being some of them :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes indeed!
Pila Mulligan: many such things do not get studied
Pila Mulligan: grant givers don;t take thems eriously
SophiaSharon Larnia: sound slike magic, which many resist
Pila Mulligan: yep
stevenaia Michinaga: magic applies to many things
stevenaia Michinaga: like time :)
Pila Mulligan: especially yhe unexpected :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
stevenaia Michinaga: or the un understandable
SophiaSharon Larnia: im careful, i m almost sure of certain things but still try to keep an open mind
SophiaSharon Larnia: im wrong about a lot lol
Pila Mulligan: science would seem to have had too mnay past dogmas proven untrue to be entirely entrenched in the present scheme of things
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, open minds offer a place for creative thought
Pila Mulligan: but grants are something elase :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: right?
Pila Mulligan: else*
Pila Mulligan: usually research follows the money
stevenaia Michinaga: so you need success before you get the money you need for the success
Pila Mulligan: :) as the snake swallows its tail
stevenaia Michinaga: nods
SophiaSharon Larnia: i know how much people resist the idea of personal energy, and the power of thought
Pila Mulligan: for now they do
stevenaia Michinaga: yet, that is truely transformative
Pila Mulligan: but there will be breakthgouurghs and so-calle dsicovereis
Pila Mulligan: no doubt
SophiaSharon Larnia: and am also frightened by it, because i have so little control over my own
Pila Mulligan: hi Luci
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Lucinda
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Luci :)
Pila Mulligan: that's kind of the Fruedian Id approach, isn;t it Sharon?
Pila Mulligan: bathing Luci :)
Lucinda Lavender: :)))
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes Pila
Pila Mulligan: the idea of uncontrolled thoughts and energy
Lucinda Lavender: I have had very strange connections on 2L today
SophiaSharon Larnia: subconscious intentions
Pila Mulligan: but don;t you find that yoga and contemplation helps insulate you from that sense?
Pila Mulligan: maybe it is the full moon Luci
SophiaSharon Larnia: it would, if i could sit still long enough
Pila Mulligan: :)
Lucinda Lavender: maybe so...or solare flares
Pila Mulligan: yep
Pila Mulligan: or just bad ISPs
SophiaSharon Larnia: but generally am very thin skinned
Lucinda Lavender: Sophia...would you like to have me post last nights log?
Pila Mulligan: sensitivity is adouble edged sword
SophiaSharon Larnia: uh oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pila Mulligan: Pema claimed it earlier
SophiaSharon Larnia: sorry Luci I went to do it today and kept crashing
Pila Mulligan: oh, sorry
Pila Mulligan: misread, tonite Pem claimed
Lucinda Lavender: last night I was that way for me...
Lucinda Lavender: and some of today...
Lucinda Lavender: I would be happy to if you like
SophiaSharon Larnia: i have a computer virus, the problems of which are very hard to explain
Lucinda Lavender: can you send it my way?
SophiaSharon Larnia: but when i open documents, the text gets eaten and my emails get deleted and web pages go bonkers
Lucinda Lavender: wow...
Pila Mulligan: sounds serious
Pila Mulligan: you need a Geek EMT
Lucinda Lavender: is thehmmm wondering...what we can do...
Pila Mulligan: Wol
Lucinda Lavender: ah...
Pila Mulligan: Wol solves all problems
SophiaSharon Larnia: i need to recover my system with a disc, theres nothing left i can do
SophiaSharon Larnia: which means i lose everything
Pila Mulligan: no backups?
SophiaSharon Larnia: all pictures, all documents
Lucinda Lavender: right now I feel like pacing...but don't know how in 2L
--BELL--
Pila Mulligan: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: nope theyre corrupted, i went back as far as i could
Pila Mulligan: auwe (Hawaain lament)
stevenaia Michinaga: no virus software?
stevenaia Michinaga: (anti)
SophiaSharon Larnia: i thought it was in place :(
SophiaSharon Larnia: or maybe that was box i kept closing and ignoring at start up hmm
Pila Mulligan: some Geeks can restore corrupt and deleted files Sharon
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Pila Mulligan: Geeks is being used asa comlimentayr term here, by the way
Lucinda Lavender: compliments are nice...
SophiaSharon Larnia: ill post it Luci, ill do it when i leave here, sorry to take so long
SophiaSharon Larnia: just wont be fancy hahahah
SophiaSharon Larnia: and, i have noooooo idea why i can even be here in SL
Lucinda Lavender: no problem for me...I was just not knowing you have a kind of difficult situation...:)
SophiaSharon Larnia: so weird
Lucinda Lavender: yes
Lucinda Lavender: well I support you...cheer you on etc:)
SophiaSharon Larnia: it actually started the day of the being as self theme session
SophiaSharon Larnia: yay Thanks Luci :))
SophiaSharon Larnia: i crashed, and computer wasnt right since
Lucinda Lavender: interesting!
Lucinda Lavender: which day was that..?
SophiaSharon Larnia: i thought it was all te avatars, like when you crash in a club?
SophiaSharon Larnia: i forget which day, a while ago now
Pila Mulligan: if files are being dleted it probably was a virus, not likely from the PaB session
SophiaSharon Larnia: but i held my breath through the sl retreat lol
Lucinda Lavender: ah...
Pila Mulligan: a coincidence there
Pila Mulligan: unless SL is now a source of virus distribution
SophiaSharon Larnia: no, there doesnt seem to be a link at all PIla, but that is exactly when i first noticed something was wrong
Pila Mulligan: :)
Pila Mulligan: new recipe: quiche with shredded potato crust :)
Pila Mulligan: yummy
Lucinda Lavender: yay for the potatoe crust!
Pila Mulligan: I just tried it yesterday
Lucinda Lavender: had a shepards pie/cottage pie tonight
Pila Mulligan: it wokred quite nicely
Pila Mulligan: nice
Lucinda Lavender: we are reading a book called Gordon Ransey's great british pub food
Pila Mulligan: I'd like to try mashed potatoes as crust next
Lucinda Lavender: ramsey's
Pila Mulligan: like shepherd's pie
Lucinda Lavender: ah...and with fresh eggs...
Pila Mulligan: :)
Lucinda Lavender: supposed to have cholestrol checked soon tho:)
Lucinda Lavender: dang
Pila Mulligan: no doubt it will be fine
SophiaSharon Larnia: posted Luci :))
Lucinda Lavender: hope so...
Pila Mulligan: if not there is always oatmeal
Lucinda Lavender: sweet sophia:)
Pila Mulligan: yea
Lucinda Lavender: every morning!oatmeal...
SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
Pila Mulligan: :)
Lucinda Lavender: deep fried:)
Pila Mulligan: :)
Lucinda Lavender: no not really!
SophiaSharon Larnia: oh yum now im hungry!!!
Pila Mulligan: with pork sauce
Lucinda Lavender: whoa!
Pila Mulligan: really not really :)
Lucinda Lavender: no only in our imaginations
Pila Mulligan: but oatmeal with abana raisns and apples, really :)
Pila Mulligan: banana*
Lucinda Lavender: yes! or dried cherries?
Pila Mulligan: hmm, never tried
Lucinda Lavender: sophia what do you like for breakfast...steve?
Lucinda Lavender: I mean what do both of you like...
stevenaia Michinaga: I typically have some cereal and milk, fruit and head out for coffee
stevenaia Michinaga: but this morning I made an omllet
Pila Mulligan: yum
SophiaSharon Larnia: I like breakfast for lunch, Luci :D
Pila Mulligan: :)
Lucinda Lavender: yes!...I like breakfast anytime actually
SophiaSharon Larnia: and have a weird attraction for french toast with sausage with syrup on it
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Lucinda Lavender: what was in the omelet I wonder...
stevenaia Michinaga: a friend of mine in canade collects maple sap and boilds it down
Lucinda Lavender: wow..
stevenaia Michinaga: well, actually I think he uses it as an excuse to drink alot
Pila Mulligan: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: like ice fishing
SophiaSharon Larnia: like seafood bars first, breakfast bars second lol
stevenaia Michinaga: the point is not the fishing
Pila Mulligan: I've read recently syrup can make a nice addition to a compost pile -- heats it up
SophiaSharon Larnia: haha
Lucinda Lavender: ah...yeswhat kind?
stevenaia Michinaga: it;s an expensive way to heat up compost
Pila Mulligan: unless you have it already :)
--BELL--
SophiaSharon Larnia: that was the fastest 90 secs ever
Lucinda Lavender: ah...had some with mother in it the other day and bet that would have worked
SophiaSharon Larnia: with mother in it?
Lucinda Lavender: how do I explain...?
Lucinda Lavender: there is a growth that develops in fermenting things
SophiaSharon Larnia: i knew that didnt mean when it looked like lol
Lucinda Lavender: called mother
SophiaSharon Larnia: what*
SophiaSharon Larnia: ok catcha, like a yeast?
Lucinda Lavender: right..yes
Lucinda Lavender: it is in Kombucha
Lucinda Lavender: grows in syrup
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: brb
Lucinda Lavender: putting an extra layer of plastic over the chicken tractor tonight....we go to the 20's
Pila Mulligan: chilly
Lucinda Lavender: yes
Lucinda Lavender: what topics have surfaced this eve?
Pila Mulligan: is that about as cold as it gets there Luci?
Lucinda Lavender: yes...kind of gets to teens sometimes but pretty rare
Pila Mulligan: several, including a few ejected and banned rowdies
SophiaSharon Larnia: Luci, I did what you said int he fall and pushed all my leavs over my flower beds
Pila Mulligan: insulation
Lucinda Lavender: wow really! helping them surviv?
Lucinda Lavender: the cold an all...
SophiaSharon Larnia: Ill see what i have to do in the spring, move them out
SophiaSharon Larnia: ?
Pila Mulligan: or till them in
Lucinda Lavender: still have snow ssl?
SophiaSharon Larnia: its been record cold here
Lucinda Lavender: but I heard 65 today?
SophiaSharon Larnia: not and my sump pump is fianally stopped running so much from the melted snow :)
Pila Mulligan: that was mph :)
Pila Mulligan: 65 mph winds :)
Pila Mulligan: [joking]
Lucinda Lavender: ha ha!
Pila Mulligan: close though,a ctually
Lucinda Lavender: yikes...
Pila Mulligan: 40 mph per the news
SophiaSharon Larnia: my yard is littlered with branches and the roads arent that safe to drive without really paying attention
SophiaSharon Larnia: lost power a bunch of times
SophiaSharon Larnia: its better now
Pila Mulligan: weather has its moments, for sure
Lucinda Lavender: wow...how about for you Pila?
Pila Mulligan: all's well here, thanks
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Pila Mulligan: taps on wood
Lucinda Lavender: I wanted to ask about your dream Pila...
Pila Mulligan: :)
Pila Mulligan: brb
Lucinda Lavender: about what feelings might have been present in it...only if you wish to discuss...
Lucinda Lavender: feeling chaty tonight
Pila Mulligan: back
SophiaSharon Larnia is eating chili because the convo pushed her over the hungry edge
Pila Mulligan: :)
Lucinda Lavender: sorry:)
SophiaSharon Larnia: hehehe
Pila Mulligan: it was not a feeling-ful dream, Luci, more observaitonal
Pila Mulligan thinks of the quiche :)
Lucinda Lavender: ah...feel I know what you mean there
Pila Mulligan: like watching a movie
Pila Mulligan: but in it
Lucinda Lavender: Master Yin...
Lucinda Lavender: those dreams feel pure somhow to me
stevenaia Michinaga: bedtime for me
stevenaia Michinaga: night all
--BELL--
SophiaSharon Larnia: sweet dreams Stevenaia :)
Lucinda Lavender: night steve...have a good breakfast:)
Pila Mulligan: bye Steve
Pila Mulligan: nce ot see you
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Pila Mulligan: Master Yin kept teaching on an underground basis after the Communist took control of China (1949), but he was one of the last old Masters
SophiaSharon Larnia: I have to go too :)) Finish some stuff up here, bye for now :D
Pila Mulligan: nice to see you Sharon, bye
SophiaSharon Larnia: nice to see you both :)
Lucinda Lavender: good luck with it all:)
SophiaSharon Larnia: thanks!
Pila Mulligan: :)
Lucinda Lavender: yes ...and sweet dreams ssl
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Lucinda Lavender: so very interesting his story
Pila Mulligan: yes
Pila Mulligan: do you have aLfred Huang's book by any chnace?
Lucinda Lavender: and you knew him?
Pila Mulligan: no, he was Alfred's master, I worked wit aLfred
Lucinda Lavender: no...I have the yellow book and wing
Pila Mulligan: Wilhelms ?
Lucinda Lavender: I will look for ityes
Lucinda Lavender: in college we read it as part of hero myths
Pila Mulligan: http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Ching.../dp/0892816562
Lucinda Lavender: wilhelm's
Pila Mulligan: yes
Pila Mulligan: it is kind of smeinal
Pila Mulligan: seminal
Pila Mulligan: being one of the earliest in english
Pila Mulligan: although it was actuall written in german
Lucinda Lavender: ah ok
Pila Mulligan: then transalted
Lucinda Lavender: and you worked on it or with him?
Lucinda Lavender: curious what age you enountered the man or the information...
Pila Mulligan: with alfred (Wilhelms was the early one, written in german)
Lucinda Lavender: right...yes
Pila Mulligan: I worked with aLfred on his translation for three years -- 1994-97
Lucinda Lavender: quite a task i imagine...much to process
Pila Mulligan: Alfred is now 90 years old
Lucinda Lavender: nodding!
Pila Mulligan: so in 1950 at the time the Comunists rule began he was about 30
Lucinda Lavender: ah
Pila Mulligan: at that time he was Dean of Students at Shanghai Sniversity
Pila Mulligan: and Master Yin was quit eold then
Lucinda Lavender: ah
Pila Mulligan: they had a covert discussion group -- several old people with MAster Yin, and Alfred
Pila Mulligan: the youngster :)
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Lucinda Lavender: most interesting those conversations...
Pila Mulligan: Alfred was part of a pro-democracy group of university professors then
Pila Mulligan: eventualkly almost all of them were executed
Pila Mulligan: or died in prison
Lucinda Lavender: wow...
Lucinda Lavender: so sad...
Pila Mulligan: he survivied prison
Pila Mulligan: yep, China is changing now, but it has a harsh past and some lingering apects of it
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
Pila Mulligan: Alfred said mao Tse Tung was geninuely open minded about dissent untl his first meeting with STalni
Pila Mulligan: Stalni-
Pila Mulligan: Stalin*
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
Pila Mulligan: and Stalin persuade Mao to suppress dissent
Pila Mulligan: harshly
Lucinda Lavender: ah
Pila Mulligan: previously Maoist had genuine self-criticism
Lucinda Lavender: ah
Lucinda Lavender: I have sinteresting...
Lucinda Lavender: dissent in many neighborhoods now...
--BELL--
Pila Mulligan: yes
Pila Mulligan: much based on the econmy
Lucinda Lavender: I have several friends whose husbands speak chinese or anve taught it or live there...interesting
Pila Mulligan: :)
Pila Mulligan: their economy seems to be surfacign as ours goes under
Lucinda Lavender: one friend 's father was a missionary there...
Lucinda Lavender: yes
Lucinda Lavender: hear about that on the news this week...
Lucinda Lavender: so I was thinking Master yin might be helping the neighborhoods...focussing on them...
Lucinda Lavender: in my imagination
Pila Mulligan: well, that actually is the best focus for an economy, in my opinion -- hadn't thought of the relationship to the dream :)
Pila Mulligan: local self-sufficeincy
Lucinda Lavender: yes!
Lucinda Lavender: have been hearing about that here...
Pila Mulligan: the most brittle part of our huge economy is the distribution system
Pila Mulligan: if we can depend mor eon local stuff it is less a factor
Lucinda Lavender: ah..yes
Lucinda Lavender: heard of a man on Claifornia who has become a source for his neighborhood...
Pila Mulligan: onsider Hawaii, we import a great deal of food and stuff, but we could produce enough here if it was organized
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
Pila Mulligan: shifting off the grid so to speak
Lucinda Lavender: yes
Lucinda Lavender: creating a support system
Pila Mulligan: it sould not be as glittery as the grid based economy, but it is more sustainable
Pila Mulligan: less bling, more bananas
Lucinda Lavender: :)))
Pila Mulligan: :)
Lucinda Lavender: a good idea...
Lucinda Lavender: sustainability
Pila Mulligan: hi Ewan
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Ewan:)
Pila Mulligan: well, Luci, I need to be going now -- nice to see and chat with you
Lucinda Lavender: well..was just going to say the same:)
Lucinda Lavender: until next time:)
Pila Mulligan: aloha :)
Lucinda Lavender: aloha:)