2011.02.21 07:00 - Ubuntu

The Guardian for this meeting was Eden Haiku. The comments are by Eden Haiku. Attending were Sunshine, Bleu, Eliza, Xirana, Aphrodite, Zen, Yakuzza, Alfred, Lugh, Lucinda and mystica.

The philosophical topic of Ubuntu illuminates this whole session from Twitter talk to spiderwebs, deja vu, deja pense, cryptomnesia, a trip to LA learning about AO and "mindsight, forgiveness, poetry and a lot of music!  

To learn more about Ubuntu (the philosophy, not the operating system :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy)

Sunshine, our sunny friend from South Africa

A trip to LA

Eden Haiku: Waving to bright Sunshine pouring in!
Eden Haiku: Bleu, you look splendid!
Sunshine Vayandar: waving back to all other suns
Bleu Oleander: hi everyone!
Sunshine Vayandar: hi all ;)
Eden Haiku: Welcome to you both!
Sunshine Vayandar: rezrez
Eden Haiku: Rez in peace Sun, rez in peace :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;p)
Bleu Oleander: what's been happening Eden?
Bleu Oleander: feel like i've been away a long time
Eden Haiku: Yes, Bleu, haven't seen you for a while. Were you on this trip to LA?
Bleu Oleander: yes, took our group to LA
Bleu Oleander: wonderful town!!
Eden Haiku: Who were you meeting this time?
Bleu Oleander: we met a great art director who works on major films
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Eden Haiku: Sunshine, have you met Bleu before?
Bleu Oleander: he worked on Avatar
Sunshine Vayandar: wow
Bleu Oleander: yes, hi Sun
Eden Haiku: Oh nice Bleu.
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Bleu ;))
Bleu Oleander: was very cool to see how they did it
Eden Haiku: Oh yes, I remember now Sunshine was at the Art of Being Self session.
Bleu Oleander: amazingly similar to sl in many ways
Eden Haiku: Wow, did you visit the studios or such?
Sunshine Vayandar: yes and I didn't understand why everyone looked strange
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Bleu Oleander: no, we went to his home
Eden Haiku: hehe :)
Sunshine Vayandar: I was in LA once
Bleu Oleander: LA was gorgeous
Sunshine Vayandar: lived in Beverly Hills
Eden Haiku: In what way is it similar to SL Bleu?
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Bleu Oleander: motion capture
Bleu Oleander: hi Eliza

Indigo and purple trending

Indigo Bleu back from LA and purple Eliza wondering about "wonderous web of mirrors"

Eden Haiku: Indigo and purple are trending this morning, hello purple Eliza :))
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Eliza ;)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu in blue, Eden, Sun :)
Bleu Oleander: monday blues
Eliza Madrigal smiles at Eden's twitter nod
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm I can't see Bleu or Eliza
Sunshine Vayandar: I have twitter too hmm haven't used for long
Eliza Madrigal: wow, you all look wonderful this morning actually
Eden Haiku: Not yet? Africa need faster connections...
Sunshine Vayandar: can I join you on twitter?
Eliza Madrigal is elizamadrigal on twitter :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ty ;)
Eden Haiku: I'm edenhaiku :)
Bleu Oleander: not sure who I am .... one sec
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eden Haiku: The 90 seconds silence is upcoming. Anyone would like to suggest a focus for the silence?
Sunshine Vayandar: "not sure who I am ;)"
Eliza Madrigal: that seems a focus...
Eden Haiku: Yes Bleu's twittering is kind of erratic :)))
Bleu Oleander: ha! I am BleuOleander
Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
Bleu Oleander: phew!!
Eden Haiku: She's an eremitic twitterer...
Sunshine Vayandar: I am szavanna
Bleu Oleander: not a regular tweeter
Eliza Madrigal: I've halved my time on twitter but nice to check in
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, great, ty :)
Eliza Madrigal: hm... don't find you in a search Sun, but find me then I'll return the follow

Twitter talk: wonderous web of mirrors

Eliza Madrigal: wonderous web of mirrors
Sunshine Vayandar: found you Eliza and Eden
Sunshine Vayandar: can't find Bleu
Sunshine Vayandar: ;(
Eden Haiku: Looking you up...
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Bleu Oleander: hmmm
Eden Haiku: You sure you are szavannna?
Eden Haiku: Two ns only ;)
Eliza Madrigal: yay, done :)
Sunshine Vayandar: oh sorry hehe
Sunshine Vayandar: 2 ns
Sunshine Vayandar: I am Anna
Sunshine Vayandar: in the savanna
Sunshine Vayandar: sz=s in hungary
Sunshine Vayandar: sz+av+anna
Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Eden Haiku: Followed you from Eliza's following :) Easier.
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)

--BELL--

Eden Haiku: Was busy sending Bleu's Twitter handle to Sun shine on Twitter :))
Sunshine Vayandar: Bleu found ;)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: group work ;)
Eden Haiku: Connecting about connections
Sunshine Vayandar: following followed followers

Spider strings

Eliza Madrigal: I was pondering the park I took the kids to this morning... the spider strings that looked like the edges made with giant bubble wands....
Eden Haiku: Birds flying in synchrony
Sunshine Vayandar: spider strings
Eden Haiku: Oh Eliza, looks beautiful...
Eliza Madrigal: I thought "Wow this is perfect why don't I do this every day" then realized that I think that at some point nearly every day, in various places... haha
Eliza Madrigal: friendly amnesia
Sunshine Vayandar: lol Eliza ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm I do that too
Eliza Madrigal: :D
Bleu Oleander: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: deja vu
Sunshine Vayandar: or not vu
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Sunshine Vayandar: deja pense
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm
Eliza Madrigal: hmm
Eliza Madrigal: I'd not been familiar with that term...
Eliza Madrigal: In Deja  pense, a completely new thought sounds familiar to the person and he feels as he has thought the same thing before at some time.
Eliza Madrigal: (wiki of psychiatric terms)
Eden Haiku: A web picture is traveling through corridors towards here :)
Bleu Oleander: hi Xirana :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hello to all:)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Xirana :)
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Xirana ;)
Eden Haiku: ah. Sounds like "cryptomnesia" a bit.
Xirana Oximoxi: hi Sun Bleu Eliza and Eden :))
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Eden Haiku: Forgetting that you read some thought somewhere and thinking it is your own.
Eliza Madrigal: hm, yes
Eden Haiku: Freud seemed to have been a great "cryptomnesiac" :)
Eliza Madrigal: I tend to think 'everything' I think is that
Eden Haiku: Oh hello Xirana! How are you?
Xirana Oximoxi: lo... very well ty:))
Xirana Oximoxi: and you?
Eden Haiku: We have been talking about Twitter, spiderwebs , deja vu, deja  pense and cryptomnesia. Gee, that's a lot :))
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
Bleu Oleander: good log title :)

Eden Haiku: And a trip to LA, meeting one of Avatar's movie tech person. Bleu did. :)
Eden Haiku: @Bleu :)

An Himalayan panda

Aphrodite introducing her friend Ping, an Himalayan panda keeping "her neck warm on cold nights"

Aphrodite Macbain: Hello everyone
Bleu Oleander: art direction is very techy now
Bleu Oleander: hey Aph
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Aph ;)
Aphrodite Macbain: wow bleu. look at you!
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Aph :)
Bleu Oleander: and look at you Aph!
Aphrodite Macbain: who are you?
Eden Haiku: Good morning Aph!
Aphrodite Macbain: I would like to introduce my friend Ping
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Yaku ;)
Aphrodite Macbain: she is an Himalayan panda
Eliza Madrigal: Hiya Ya
Bleu Oleander: hey Yaku
Eliza Madrigal: Hiya Ping :)
Eden Haiku: Hello Yaku!
Aphrodite Macbain: Ping has a brother called Pong. They play a lot together
Eliza Madrigal: ooooh very sweet Aph
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Aphrodite Macbain: Ping Pong
Eden Haiku: Ping is a cutie kitten!
Aphrodite Macbain: no an Himalyan panda
Aphrodite Macbain: picked her up at the Yak and Yeti

--BELL--

Sunshine Vayandar: I used to have that - it's so nice
Eden Haiku: Oh, a panda, yes I see :)
Eliza Madrigal: very sweet...looks cozy
Sunshine Vayandar: oops ;) sorry
Aphrodite Macbain: keeps my neck warm on cold nights
Sunshine Vayandar: brb

Bleu's trip to LA with her RL group meeting an art director who worked on the movie Avatar

Eliza Madrigal: Bleu, are you busy with the salon? missed you last week
Bleu Oleander: yes, was in LA
Eliza Madrigal: :) Nice! Everything go well?
Bleu Oleander: wonderful trip
Bleu Oleander: LA was amazing
Aphrodite Macbain: what did you do in LA?
Eliza Madrigal: Who did you see?
Bleu Oleander: hadn't been there in a long time
Bleu Oleander: met an art director who worked on Avatar
Eliza Madrigal: oooo
Bleu Oleander: very cool
Bleu Oleander: motion capture
Aphrodite Macbain: did he/she teach you new skills?
Bleu Oleander: well it was interesting how much it was like sl
Bleu Oleander: how AO's are made
Xirana Oximoxi: may I ask what is 'LA'?
Bleu Oleander: sorry, Los Angeles, CA
Xirana Oximoxi: ahh OK thanks!!!
Eliza Madrigal: I was surprised to hear Cameron sort of downplay something like SL in relation to Avatar... that it wasn't a big influence... not that he poo poo 'ed it
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ty Eden ;)
Aphrodite Macbain: California
Aphrodite Macbain: who is Cameron?
Eliza Madrigal: James Cameron director of Avatar
Eden Haiku: Spiderweb connections :))
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: well yes, sl not the magnitude of major motion picture
Bleu Oleander: but some of the ideas as the same
Aphrodite Macbain: oh, him why did he pooh pooh it?
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eliza Madrigal: No, he didn't.. but also didn't cite it as an influence per se, in an interview I watched

"Mindsight" by Dan Siegel

Bleu Oleander: we also met Dan Siegel, who wrote "mindsight"
Bleu Oleander: mindfulness and the brain
Eliza Madrigal: it seems the most mainstream virtual medium but maybe I'm naive :)
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, yes how was that?
Aphrodite Macbain: fascinating. Is he a neuroscientist?
Bleu Oleander: yes, Aph
Bleu Oleander: great conversation
Eliza Madrigal: mind tentacles...
Aphrodite Macbain: Mindsight. I'll see if I can find it
Aphrodite Macbain: what did you talk about?
Bleu Oleander: we also met two professors/researchers at UCLA
Aphrodite Macbain: was this a trip you had set up yourself Bleu?
Bleu Oleander: we talked about the benefits of mindfulness and integration
Bleu Oleander: yes, for our RL group
Aphrodite Macbain: integration into our lives?
Eden Haiku: Mindfulness and integration, that sounds very good!
Bleu Oleander: integration in brain states
Eden Haiku: Welcome back Xirana. Trouble with connection?
Aphrodite Macbain wonders what that means
Aphrodite Macbain: integration of brain states
Xirana Oximoxi: yes.. it's very bad today..mysteries of technology! :)
Sunshine Vayandar: it's been for me for weeks hmm
Eden Haiku: ;)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey zen
Aphrodite Macbain: glad you're back
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zen :)
Bleu Oleander: http://drdansiegel.com/
Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks Bleu
Eden Haiku: Hi Zen :)
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Zen ;)
Aphrodite Macbain: Did that give you any new ideas for Art as Being?

Xirana brings up a fascinating philosophical topic: Ubuntu 

Xirana Oximoxi: I wanted to talk about 'Ubuntu' to Sun...
Eliza Madrigal: integration seems to be about effortlessness... about processing in ways that outflow naturally into our lives?
Zen Arado: Hi all
Bleu Oleander: yes, lots of ideas
Xirana Oximoxi: I've thought about her yesterday! I've seen a TV reportage about "Ubuntu' an African word that means "I am because you are"… have you heard about it? In this link you can find a beautiful video with people trying to explain this meaning.
Aphrodite Macbain: Ubuntu is a wonderful concept
Eden Haiku: Oh, that looks quite interesting Bleu, thanks for the link :)
Eliza Madrigal: OOoh, listens...
Aphrodite Macbain: Nelson Mandela talks about it
Xirana Oximoxi: http://www.odemagazine.com/exchange/...ecause_you_are
Eden Haiku: Ubuntu is wonderful yes. I have seen a great movie about it with Juliette Binoche. So moving .
Eden Haiku: Forgiveness, the african way. Wonderful.
Bleu Oleander: sounds great
Xirana Oximoxi: yes.. I've found it wonderful:)

--BELL--

Aphrodite Macbain: and the responsibility of a whole community to take care of its members. Everyone is welcome and cared for
Zen Arado thought it was Linux
Eden Haiku: Movie is "In my Country' by John Boorman, 2004.
Eden Haiku: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxcWCd-reew
Xirana Oximoxi: also that we are nothing without the others
Yakuzza Lethecus: hehe, i have to admit i also only knew it as a linux distro
Xirana Oximoxi: yes... me too!!
Xirana Oximoxi: but it was a great idea to put this name.. Ubuntu is built thanks of the collaboration of a lot of people (I think)
Aphrodite Macbain: I watched a program on PBS last night about the the Chautauqua events that happen annually during the summer. Seems it follows the same value systemitau
Eden Haiku: What I remember from the movie is that in order to heal deep wounds, the hurt has to be acknowledged by the perpetrator,
Eliza Madrigal: pretty skirt, wb Sun :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ty ;)
Eden Haiku: Then, it creates space for the wounded to forgive what has been done to him/her.
Aphrodite Macbain: yes- sort of like what South Africa has been going through-reconciliation
Aphrodite Macbain: who said that Zen?
Eden Haiku: Yes, reconciliation.
Eliza Madrigal: hmm... feels like if one has to wait for perpetrator to see, forgiveness is impossible
Zen Arado: http://www.tricycle.com/online-retre...hten-your-load
Eden Haiku: I know there is still violence in South Africa and that nothing is perfect but isn't it amazing that apartheid is no longer ruling?
Sunshine Vayandar: it's amazing to experience Eden
Sunshine Vayandar: sorry I lost the screen
Eden Haiku: Were you there during the shift Sun?
Sunshine Vayandar: I came in 97
Sunshine Vayandar: these are all very new times
Sunshine Vayandar: and people don't know I am watching ;))
Eden Haiku: And the end of apartheid was in the years 2000 I think...
Yakuzza Lethecus: i got to go, bye everyone
Bleu Oleander: bye Yaku
Sunshine Vayandar: 94
Eden Haiku: Bye Yaku :)
Xirana Oximoxi: schuss Yaku:)
Sunshine Vayandar: byebyee Yaku
Eden Haiku: Already,... So you lived there right after the change?
Sunshine Vayandar: yes 3 years later I landed ;)

Forgiveness

Eden Haiku: Yes Eliza, it looks like it in Ubuntu; [7:49] Eliza Madrigal: hmm... feels like if one has to wait for perpetrator to see, forgiveness is impossible
Zen Arado: bye Yaku
Sunshine Vayandar: but South Africa is very big and it's not possible to see "the changes" one way
Eden Haiku: In Catholic church you have to forgive no matter what but maybe that' why it's not working too well :(
Aphrodite Macbain: Perhaps it is impossible, but it might be a good goal to strive for Eliza
Sunshine Vayandar: There has been amazing stories of forgiveness here
Zen Arado: Jesus talked a lot about forgiveness
Sunshine Vayandar: humbling
Eden Haiku: Oh! Did you witness any Sunshine?
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm not personally
Zen Arado: 'how many times should I forgive?+
Aphrodite Macbain: truth and reconciliation implies honesty and openness in both sides
Sunshine Vayandar: I have to think about this
Eliza Madrigal: yes its a personal responsibility... then maybe that makes space for perpetrator to see
Aphrodite Macbain: yes- guide thru example
Eliza Madrigal: and if one 'can't' forgive, they can aspire... let themselves off the hook
Eden Haiku: If you have a chance to watch John Boorman's movie, it's really worth it. I still think about it, years later.
Aphrodite Macbain: which movie Eden?
Eliza Madrigal notes film
Sunshine Vayandar: yes which movie
Eden Haiku: I once asked a great aunt who was a contemplative nun: "How does one forgive?"
Eden Haiku: She had been a nun from her teens and she was then in her late 80s.
Aphrodite Macbain: Eden- what is the name of the movie?
Eden Haiku: She looked into my eyes.
Zen Arado: we are the ones who suffer if we don't forgive
Sunshine Vayandar: yes Zen
Aphrodite Macbain: yes eden?
Eden Haiku: And said: " One does not forgive. God does ."
Eliza Madrigal: mmm
Aphrodite Macbain: Hmmm. I'm not sure if I agree with this nun
Eden Haiku: Movie was: "In my Country" by John Boorman, 2004 [here is more about the movie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_My_Country ]
Eliza Madrigal thinks of the saying "Unforgiveness is like drinking poison and hoping your enemy will die"
Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks Eden
Sunshine Vayandar: ty will try to see
Eden Haiku: I think she meant it goes through you, on its own time. Like a ray of light.
Eliza Madrigal: yes... I like that
Eden Haiku: Our job is to make way for the light.
Aphrodite Macbain: a green-eyed monster
Eden Haiku: Hence meditation.
Eliza Madrigal: it is an allowing, a giving up, making space
Eden Haiku: hence 9 seconds breaks :)
Aphrodite Macbain: letting go of hatreds
Eliza Madrigal: which we can 'always' do

Making space for the light of forgiveness

Eden Haiku: Making space yes, Eliza. I think so.
Aphrodite Macbain: takes up too much energy to hate and not forgive
Eliza Madrigal: yes, inefficient :)
Eden Haiku: Breathing room for "God" to send light in our dark rooms :)
Aphrodite Macbain: Amazing how long people carry their hurtful memories

--BELL--

Aphrodite Macbain: My mother retells stories from 50 years ago and there is still anger and resentment My mother still is resentful of things that happened 50 years ago
Aphrodite Macbain: sorry about the repeat
Sunshine Vayandar: sometimes ppl get upset about the smallest things
Bleu Oleander: gtg .... nice to see everyone :)
Sunshine Vayandar: byebyee Bleu take care ;)
Eden Haiku: Nice to see you Bleu, flash of indigo lights!
Aphrodite Macbain: and then hold on to that anger. wonder why we do that?
Bleu Oleander: take care ... bye
Eliza Madrigal nods... we prob all have people we see do this.... and we can see that they are 'trapped in a loop' in a sense... less easy to see our own
Aphrodite Macbain: why
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bleu :)
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! Bleu
Eden Haiku: Bye, have a nice day!
Zen Arado: bye Bleu

Sharing 

Sunshine Vayandar: my parents divorced when I was about 3
Zen Arado: oh Sun
Sunshine Vayandar: after my mom passed away - my father was still angry with her
Eliza Madrigal: Oh :(
Eden Haiku: Did it leave a scar Sunshine?
Zen Arado: bitterness
Eliza Madrigal: so it goes....
Aphrodite Macbain: how sad for him and you
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm I wonder why one can't forgive
Eliza Madrigal: my grandfather is the same... still goes over and over 'if, then'...
Sunshine Vayandar: it's a lesson for me hmm
Aphrodite Macbain: It's like it gets stuck somewhere and can't be removed
Eliza Madrigal: yes we can learn from it and step out
Eliza Madrigal: but for some it is like a phantom limb
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm yes
Aphrodite Macbain: Perhaps we don't know how. Perhaps we need rituals
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eliza Madrigal: perspective...
Eden Haiku: We need to learn Ubuntu ;)
Aphrodite Macbain: yes Eden
Eliza Madrigal: I think to share a poem but am hesitating
Sunshine Vayandar: ubuuuuuntuuuu
Aphrodite Macbain: please share it Eliza
Eden Haiku: Yes, please do Eliza.
Sunshine Vayandar: ;) yay poem
Eliza Madrigal: I may ask for it to be removed later... but...
Eden Haiku: It will be refreshing .
Aphrodite Macbain: Is it yours?
Eliza Madrigal: not sure if refreshing, but it is what helped me 'forgive'
Eden Haiku: Ok, no problem if you want.
Eden Haiku: listening
Aphrodite Macbain listens
Eden Haiku: Would you like to read it on voice Eliza?

Eliza posts into the local chat a razor-sharp short poem, very moving. I edit it out from then log as she asked. We are honored she felt comfortable enough with us to share it in our small group.

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Eliza Madrigal: I wrote that at about 17
Eden Haiku: oh Eliza ...
Aphrodite Macbain: oh Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: strange to share it, but releasing as well
Eden Haiku: It wrenches the soul.
Eliza Madrigal: to go back and realize one has the 'tools'
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm hugs
Eliza Madrigal: to deal with something they couldn't before
Aphrodite Macbain gives Eliza a soft warm hug
Eliza Madrigal: :) Ty
Eliza Madrigal: "Time heals all wounds"
Eden Haiku: A beautiful poem Eliza, really beautiful. Cathartic.
Aphrodite Macbain: did it help you when you wrote it?
Eliza Madrigal: absolutely
Eliza Madrigal: it was a release
Aphrodite Macbain: like naming the event
Eliza Madrigal: to realize I could 'tap into' the rest
Eliza Madrigal: without denying or covering anything
Aphrodite Macbain: putting words to things helps diffuse their emotional power
Eden Haiku: The power of writing as a tool to carve the soul too.
Aphrodite Macbain: It engages different parts of the brain.
Aphrodite Macbain: Perhaps that's what bleu meant by integration
Eden Haiku: It creates connections between synapses yes. Sides of the brain too.
Eliza Madrigal: yes...integration
Zen Arado: poetry relieving the pressure of past hurts?
Aphrodite Macbain: rational and emotionaal
Aphrodite Macbain: limbic system an cerebral cortex
Eliza Madrigal: yes and also just seeing that this was a 'moment' it was not going on and on and on
Aphrodite Macbain: and
Eliza Madrigal: which is what we do when we don't face things
Zen Arado: facing our demons
Eden Haiku: Zen, maybe poetry does create pathways to healing parts of the brain, to the "rest' where all wounds can be healed?
Aphrodite Macbain: yes. Thank you so much for sharing that with us Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: yw... sort of surprising that i did but I trust the junction of the moment, in a sense
Zen Arado: like writing a letter to someone you are angry with
Zen Arado: but not posting it
Eden Haiku: Yes, a precious gem Eliza. Feeling privileged.
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Aphrodite Macbain: yes. I wrote many letters to my mother..
Aphrodite Macbain: to voice my anger that I was afraid to express in person
Eliza Madrigal: ah, so important... because we don't want to hurt others...
Alfred Kelberry: meep!
Eliza Madrigal: yet need to come clear
Zen Arado: better than rumination that corrodes
Eden Haiku: Hello Alfred!
Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
Eliza Madrigal: btw .... if I ask to remove it it will be for […]privacy ... though it is my story and I wonder about these lines Ann Lammot says "What happens to you is yours" but not sure I agree :)

Zen slips out quietly as we greet Alfred (as a human being now)  and Lugh (in a cool t-shirt look that says "Free hugs" but nobody got a chance to ask for one since we got very busy with singing and music…).

Zen Arado: Hi Alf :)
Sunshine Vayandar: hi boxy ;)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Alfred :)
Eden Haiku: We have been talking about forgiveness this morning :)
Aphrodite Macbain giggles at the meeps
Alfred Kelberry: what a lovely group you are :)
Zen Arado: forgives meeps :)
Aphrodite Macbain: so are you boxy!
Sunshine Vayandar: lol zen
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Eliza Madrigal is trying to get used to this new Alfred who sits! very zen!
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: still have those roses I see. I hope you put them in water overnight
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)) yes very strange to call him Alf now
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Lugh
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Lugh

--BELL--

Alfred Kelberry: um, tulips :)
Zen Arado: Hi Lugh
Lugh Fehr: hellow butiful people
Alfred Kelberry: my tag still says boxy :)
Alfred Kelberry: hi, acid man :)
Zen Arado: slips out bye
Eden Haiku: It is such an honor you shared the poem with us this morning Eliza. Yet, I understand you prefer not posting it. I would like very much to keep our conversation about it though, if you agree. Bye Zen :)
Alfred Kelberry: ommm, zen :)
Eliza Madrigal: bye Zen :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes...the conversation is fine..
Eden Haiku: hello lugh :)
Lugh Fehr: bybye zen
Aphrodite Macbain: time to go
Eden Haiku: Thank you Eliza.
Eden Haiku: It was such a powerful moment.
Lugh Fehr: byebye everyone whos leaving
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye!
Eden Haiku: Oh, sorry, was talking on the bell...sighs...Bye Aph!
Alfred Kelberry: luci :)
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Aph :)
Eliza Madrigal: thank you Eden, the thing is... when we don't put our 'selves' on the line
Alfred Kelberry: the bell will forgive you today :)
Eliza Madrigal: we aren't very useful :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Luci!
Sunshine Vayandar: byebyee Aph
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Luci ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Lugh ;)

Alfred has a question and Lucinda comes in

Alfred Kelberry: eliza, what musical instruments do you play?
Eden Haiku: Hi Lucinda.
Alfred Kelberry: same question for eden :)
Eliza Madrigal: nada Alf :)
Lucinda Lavender: Hi everyone:)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Alfred Kelberry: eliza, ok, do you sing? :)
Eliza Madrigal: I pretended I could sing for a while
Alfred Kelberry: hehe
Alfred Kelberry: good! :)
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Eden Haiku: No instrument Alfred. Used to play the flute when a teenager
Lugh Fehr: hehe
Sunshine Vayandar: je ne regret riennnn
Alfred Kelberry: eden can read poems though :)
Eden Haiku: . My cat was so critical I had to stop...
Eliza Madrigal: Eden sings beautifully too
Alfred Kelberry: yes, indeed
Alfred Kelberry: in french :)
Sunshine Vayandar: yes she does ;)
Eliza Madrigal: mmmm je ne regret rien...ah yes
Alfred Kelberry: luci? you play any instruments?
Lucinda Lavender: guitar...sing
Alfred Kelberry: eden! :) [was humming "Je ne regrette rien"]
Eliza Madrigal swoons
Sunshine Vayandar: lalalaaa
Eden Haiku: I don't know the song...
Sunshine Vayandar: *:• •:*.-:¦:- -:¦:-.•:*¨¨*:• YAYYY *:• •:*¨¨*:•.-:¦:- -:¦:-.¨¨*:•
Eliza Madrigal: Oh Luci is very talented, Alf...
Alfred Kelberry: that was too low, i didn't hear :/
Eliza Madrigal: though havent hear guitar!
Sunshine Vayandar: hehe Alfy
Eliza Madrigal: wow quite a few guitarists in PaB
Alfred Kelberry: luci, will you play a song for us? :)
Alfred Kelberry: please :)
Eden Haiku: Would love to hear Lucinda sing something....Alleluia maybe?
Lucinda Lavender: wow...let me think...
Sunshine Vayandar: yay ;)
Alfred Kelberry: wee! :)
Lucinda Lavender: I just woke up and all...
Sunshine Vayandar: this is my sis Mysti
Eden Haiku: Hello mystica!
Lucinda Lavender: drinking my coffee:)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mysti, beautiful dress !

Alfred has a suggestion: a musical session

Alfred Kelberry: maybe we could make monday a musical session :)
Eliza Madrigal: Nice to meet you
Sunshine Vayandar: ;) Mysti these are my friends ;)
Alfred Kelberry: hi, mysti :)
mystica Triellis: hello everyone:)
mystica Triellis: nice to meet you..
Alfred Kelberry: stop hiding under mysti's skirt, sun :)
Eden Haiku: Did Sunshine tell you that we record our sessions?
Sunshine Vayandar: not yet
Sunshine Vayandar: so Mysti don't say anything
Sunshine Vayandar: unless your lawyer is here
Eliza Madrigal: Alf... you'll have to come on time... or on Wed. I'm being terrible today with time...
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)))
Eliza Madrigal: PaB is such a temptation :)
Eden Haiku: Oh, no worries Sunshine, I can tell her in IM.
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Alfred Kelberry: eliza? time? not sure i follow :)
Eliza Madrigal: ah... don't want to miss the music...
Lucinda Lavender: I sing in a choir and with the children at preschool. Is it possible to sing together simultaneously?
Alfred Kelberry: basically, mysti, whatever you say may be used against you... on the net :)
Eliza Madrigal: should have been offline a while ago :) @ Alf
Sunshine Vayandar: music coming up?
Alfred Kelberry: eliza, ah, you want it on wed? :)
Sunshine Vayandar: oh she went offline
Eliza Madrigal: well am here now...
Alfred Kelberry: poof
Alfred Kelberry: luci? you play? :)
Eden Haiku: Would you, maybe just a cappella some air Lucinda?
Sunshine Vayandar: guitar ;))
Eden Haiku: No need to be perfect here :)
Alfred Kelberry: *cheers*
Alfred Kelberry: wee!
Alfred Kelberry: lu-ci! lu-ci!
Eden Haiku: [noticing that mystica just poofed] Maybe I knocked her out with the info notecard. Sorry mystica :(
Eliza Madrigal: hehe persistent Alfred
Sunshine Vayandar: lol easy to say Alfy
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Eden Haiku: Luci! Luci!
Sunshine Vayandar: oh it's ok Eden ;)
Alfred Kelberry: no pressure :)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Eden Haiku: Pleaazzzze
Lucinda Lavender: you mean just sing...
Sunshine Vayandar: I will see what happened with her hmm
Eden Haiku: No pressure but...
Sunshine Vayandar: Eden she will run away
Eliza Madrigal: he says no pressure but everyone is @@ at you
Lucinda Lavender: am getting up the nerve...
Eden Haiku: Yeah, anything. A cappellla
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: exactly
Eden Haiku: Good!
Eliza Madrigal: yay
Alfred Kelberry: ok, everyone, turn around and act like you don't know luci is here :)
Eden Haiku: listening
Eden Haiku: examining her nails...
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm
Lucinda Lavender: ok...
Alfred Kelberry: yay! :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eden Haiku: yeah!
Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
Alfred Kelberry: eden could help you :)
Sunshine Vayandar: wb Mysti ;)
Alfred Kelberry: back vocal :)
Eden Haiku: Just jump in Lucinda!
mystica Triellis: ty sis
mystica Triellis: crashed earlier
Lucinda Lavender: looking for a song...
Sunshine Vayandar: np I keep crashing too
Alfred Kelberry: :)
mystica Triellis: :)
Eden Haiku: Alleluia by Haendel?
Sunshine Vayandar: yay I hear something
Eliza Madrigal: :) Eden
Sunshine Vayandar: yay
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Alfred Kelberry: neat
Sunshine Vayandar: so nice to hear you
Eliza Madrigal: Welcome back Mysti :) Luci is going to sing a little for us...
Sunshine Vayandar: I can hear well
Alfred Kelberry: yes, eden is very low
mystica Triellis: ty eliza:)
mystica Triellis: thats nice:)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
Alfred Kelberry: hehe
Eliza Madrigal: heh
Sunshine Vayandar: sing lowwww
Sunshine Vayandar: sweet chariot
Eden Haiku: I don't have my headset on.
Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
Eliza Madrigal: hah, Sun
Eden Haiku: Sing anything...
Sunshine Vayandar: I can hear well ;)
Eliza Madrigal: hear you perfectly

As we have been pestering her for a while, Lucinda finally gives some introduction to a short song that she then sings 

Alfred Kelberry: oh, native
Sunshine Vayandar: puppetshow ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;))

--BELL--

Alfred Kelberry: *pokes luci* :)
Eden Haiku: ;))
Eliza Madrigal: :D
Sunshine Vayandar: yes I think so
Sunshine Vayandar: lalaaa;)
Alfred Kelberry: cute :)
mystica Triellis: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: *:• •:*.-:¦:- -:¦:-.•:*¨¨*:• YAYYY *:• •:*¨¨*:•.-:¦:- -:¦:-.¨¨*:•
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, didn't know the other lines... only knew lu lu...
Lugh Fehr: hehe hellow hellow sorry
Sunshine Vayandar: wb Lugh ;)
Lugh Fehr: i got to go buy a painting for my sisters wedding in 10 mins
Lugh Fehr: :)
Eliza Madrigal: cute... hoola hoops in the pantry
Lugh Fehr: http://www.maltapark.com/item.asp?ItemID=1003359
Eden Haiku: Nice Lucinda :)
mystica Triellis: lol
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks Luci :))
Lugh Fehr: this one
Sunshine Vayandar: TY Luci ;)
Eden Haiku: Feeling in kindergarden. :)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Lucinda Lavender: would someone else like to sing?
Sunshine Vayandar: so nice to hear you ;)
Eden Haiku: Do you sing a lot with the kids Lucinda?
Eliza Madrigal: going back to kindergarten with playmates in the sandbox
Lucinda Lavender: yes everyday...
Eden Haiku: hey, you are just warming up...
Eliza Madrigal: no ringworm in SL thank goodness
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: hehe Eliza
Eden Haiku: ;)
mystica Triellis: thats cool:) it must make you very happy to be with children
mystica Triellis: i admire their innocence:)
Lucinda Lavender: yes...I make up songs as we go...
Sunshine Vayandar: yes ;)
mystica Triellis: :)
Eden Haiku: Oh, make up a song for us!
Eliza Madrigal: the essence of play, being in the moment

[I lalala some made up air and Lucinda responds in the same manner. ]

Lucinda Lavender: ah...
Lucinda Lavender: interesting.
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Alfred Kelberry: yay! :)
Lugh Fehr: hehehe
Alfred Kelberry: play as lala :)
mystica Triellis: :)
Eden Haiku: That was fun!
Lucinda Lavender: yes:)
Eliza Madrigal: we're breaking out
Alfred Kelberry: i can tell eden wants to sing :)
Alfred Kelberry: let it go! :)
Eliza Madrigal: sing sing a song...
Eliza Madrigal: sing out loud...
Eliza Madrigal: sing out strong...
Eden Haiku: Nope. No headset this morning Alfred. It's not always my turn:) What about you?
Alfred Kelberry: *sees little singlets jumping in excitement inside eden* :)
Eden Haiku: Eliza?
Eliza Madrigal: 'dont worry if its not good enough, for anyone else to hear... just sing, sing a song....
Eliza Madrigal thinks Alf should sing
Alfred Kelberry: eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: ooooooooooo

Sunshine surprises us : violin has such a profound effect on the soul. "Old and well played, it contains soul of many songs" as Alfred will put it. 

Alfred Kelberry: violin! :)
Eliza Madrigal: WOW
Lucinda Lavender: hmmm:)))
Eliza Madrigal: skipping
Alfred Kelberry: yay!
Lucinda Lavender: wonderful
Alfred Kelberry: you can also sing, sun :)
mystica Triellis: cool:))
Lugh Fehr: yeeey
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, so happy... how we bounce off one another
Lucinda Lavender: great!!
Lugh Fehr: butifull!!
Eden Haiku: Yes, sing some Zulu song for us :)
mystica Triellis: that was really nice sis:)
Eliza Madrigal: really lovely Sun
Lugh Fehr: olaa!
Eden Haiku: Or anything you like :)
Lucinda Lavender: I would love to learn a song from another country
Lucinda Lavender: is ok how ever it sounds!
Eden Haiku: I don't believe you can't sing!
Eliza Madrigal: I don't either :)
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Eden Haiku: Ah maybe not while playing the violin...
Alfred Kelberry: mmm, i so enjoy musical sessions :)
Eliza Madrigal: ohhh very pretty...
Alfred Kelberry: lugh can play acid :)
mystica Triellis: its beautiful sis:) essence of your spirit
Eliza Madrigal: we're in retreat
Eliza Madrigal: :)
mystica Triellis: yw:)
Lucinda Lavender: great!
Eden Haiku: Violin has such a profound effect on the soul...
Lucinda Lavender: sounds familiar
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Eliza Madrigal: hm...no...
Eden Haiku: keep going Sun, it's beautiful!

As some of us were going in and out of voice chat, the conversation may sound a bit off: I kind of remember Sunshine was singing bits of a song called "Malaika". At that point, she was also playing her guitar. 

Alfred Kelberry: malaika?
Lucinda Lavender: ah...
Lucinda Lavender: is ok!
Alfred Kelberry: old and well played. it contains souls of many songs :)
Eden Haiku: so well said Alfred...
Lucinda Lavender: yes!
Eliza Madrigal: mmm
Eden Haiku: Missing your voice Sunshine...
Lucinda Lavender: feel that music is such a great connector
Eliza Madrigal: do you know this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siyahamba ?
Alfred Kelberry: http://www.e-chords.com/chords/mahot...queens/malaika - is it similar, sun?
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm one mo
Lugh Fehr: tnx for the tunes :P and company i have to go for a few cya afterwards or at the late evening session :)
Eden Haiku: Please Sunshine, sing "Malaika' again, it was nice!
Lugh Fehr: up up and away!
Lucinda Lavender: have a good day Lugh
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Lugh :) Happiness to your sister!
Eden Haiku: Bye Lugh. Nice painting buying for your sis!
mystica Triellis: bye lugh
mystica Triellis: take care
Sunshine Vayandar: yes
Alfred Kelberry: i don't know the tune though :)
Alfred Kelberry: easy chords there

--BELL--

Eden Haiku: I love her voice.
Lucinda Lavender: yes!
Alfred Kelberry: sun has a cute mild accent :)
Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
Eden Haiku: Yes, was wondering about the way she pronounces the "a". Hungarian accent maybe...
Alfred Kelberry: it's lovely :)
Eden Haiku: She's from the same tribe as Clarissa Pinkola Estes :)
mystica Triellis: cool:)
mystica Triellis: its endearing
Eliza Madrigal: yes lovely
Lucinda Lavender: lovely!
mystica Triellis: smiles gently at sis
Lucinda Lavender: easily understood...
Alfred Kelberry: gah, i can't read this song :)
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Eden Haiku: Dancing on my chair...
Eliza Madrigal: **********Applause!!**********
Eliza Madrigal: **********Applause!!**********
Eden Haiku: **********Applause!!**********
Eden Haiku: **********Applause!!**********
Lucinda Lavender: Yay!!!
Eden Haiku: **********Applause!!**********
mystica Triellis: claps her hands:)
Eden Haiku: **********Applause!!**********
Alfred Kelberry: wee!
Eden Haiku: yes!
Lucinda Lavender: one other?
Alfred Kelberry: 3? :)
Lucinda Lavender: listening...
Eliza Madrigal: 3 more than I know
Alfred Kelberry: hehe
Alfred Kelberry: which ones? :)
Eliza Madrigal: haha, great!
mystica Triellis: yay!
Eden Haiku: Ah la bamba
Eden Haiku: Arriva arriva...
mystica Triellis: u sing really well sis
Eliza Madrigal: baaam ba la baaamba
mystica Triellis: feel like dancing:)
Eliza Madrigal is dancing in her chair
mystica Triellis: smiles
Lucinda Lavender: Luci too:)
Eliza Madrigal: :)))
Eliza Madrigal: what gifts, we are rich
Alfred Kelberry: c-f-g :)
Eden Haiku: So niiiiice....
Alfred Kelberry: am-dm-e?
Lucinda Lavender: Luci loves the three chords

After some more playing by Sunshine and discussion on voice about chords, Lucinda plays her guitar too and sings some blues in a beautiful vulnerable voice. 

Lucinda Lavender: I have one song if I get my guitar tuned up...
Eliza Madrigal: yay
Eden Haiku: **********Applause!!**********
Eden Haiku: **********Applause!!**********
Eliza Madrigal: woohoo
Lucinda Lavender: yay!
Alfred Kelberry: hmm, dm doesn't fit
Eden Haiku: That was so cool Sunshine. Thank you. Wanted to dance but couldn't find my fav dance in inventory...
Alfred Kelberry: sure it's dm?
Sunshine Vayandar: yw Eden ;p
Sunshine Vayandar: ty for surviving ;)
Eden Haiku: It was fun :)
Alfred Kelberry: we should do it more often :)
Lucinda Lavender: ok tuned...
Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
Eden Haiku: I loooove hearing people's voices...
Sunshine Vayandar: yay Luci ;))
Eden Haiku: listening to Luci
Lucinda Lavender: it will be a little messy...
Lucinda Lavender: out of practice
Eden Haiku: That,s ok...
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Sunshine Vayandar: cfg
Alfred Kelberry: wee!
Sunshine Vayandar: hehe like me
Sunshine Vayandar: wow yay
Alfred Kelberry: what song is it?
Eliza Madrigal listens.... nice....
Sunshine Vayandar: |
Sunshine Vayandar: \ | /
Sunshine Vayandar: `. \ ' / .'
Sunshine Vayandar: `. .-*""*-. .'
Sunshine Vayandar: "*-._ /.*" "*.\ _.-*"
Sunshine Vayandar: : ; ____
Sunshine Vayandar: ------ : .. ;
Sunshine Vayandar: _.-*" \ `.__.' / "*-._
Sunshine Vayandar: .' `-.__.-' `.
Sunshine Vayandar: .' / . \ `.
Sunshine Vayandar: / | \
Sunshine Vayandar: ' | `
Alfred Kelberry: hehe
Alfred Kelberry: cute :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
Alfred Kelberry: like rl jam session in a studio :)
Sunshine Vayandar: yohooooo very nice
Eden Haiku: How do you create these Sunshine?
Eliza Madrigal: mmm, nods...NICE Luci
Eliza Madrigal: no, is great
Sunshine Vayandar: what Eden?
Eden Haiku: No singing?
Sunshine Vayandar: yay you sing so nice Luciii
Alfred Kelberry: cute! :)
Alfred Kelberry: i love it
Sunshine Vayandar: wow it was nice
Eliza Madrigal: I love your voice Luci... and the music is dancing...
Sunshine Vayandar: *:• •:*.-:¦:- -:¦:-.•:*¨¨*:• YAYYY *:• •:*¨¨*:•.-:¦:- -:¦:-.¨¨*:•
Eden Haiku: Just sing a cappella, you have a niiice voice Luci!
Sunshine Vayandar: yes she has beautiful voice
Eliza Madrigal is snapping
Alfred Kelberry: reminds me a midwest bar with a cute singer on a little stage :)
Eliza Madrigal: very sweet
Sunshine Vayandar: ty Luci ;))
Alfred Kelberry: so nice
Eden Haiku: **********Applause!!**********
Eden Haiku: **********Applause!!**********
Eliza Madrigal: **********Applause!!**********
Eliza Madrigal: **********Applause!!**********
Eliza Madrigal: :)Thank you guys, so much
Eliza Madrigal: but since Alf has been pressuring now we must turn tables...
Eden Haiku: I love the vulnerability in your voice. It's endearing.
Eliza Madrigal: @@
Sunshine Vayandar: yes ;)
Alfred Kelberry: eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: Alfy ;)
Alfred Kelberry: um... i think the session is up :)
Eliza Madrigal: alfi alfi
Sunshine Vayandar: blabla
Sunshine Vayandar: ;p
Eden Haiku: Will have to miss Alfred's singing for today... Have to go. But next time you promise Alf?
Eliza Madrigal: it is quite late...
Alfred Kelberry: or early :)
Eden Haiku: Thank you for the poetry, the singing, the violin and guitar playing, the beautiful conversation.
Sunshine Vayandar: byebyeee Eden always nice to hear you ;)
Eliza Madrigal: so I guess Alf is let off this hook...
Lucinda Lavender: lovely
Eliza Madrigal: but not the next one
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Alfred Kelberry: phew...
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: hehe Alfy
Eliza Madrigal: THANKS Eden
Eden Haiku: Have a great day everyone!
Sunshine Vayandar: u2 Eden ;)
Eliza Madrigal: Bye everyone....
Eliza Madrigal: wish me focus
Lucinda Lavender: bye everyone:0
mystica Triellis: ty everyone and bye
Eliza Madrigal: thanks so much I feel extraordinary blessed
Lucinda Lavender: what are you up to Eliza?
Sunshine Vayandar: it is amazing when we play
mystica Triellis: ty sun:) for calling me over enjoyed the singing
mystica Triellis: smiles
Sunshine Vayandar: ty for coming sis
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: chat soon ;)
Eliza Madrigal: amazing is the word :) THANKS and great to meet you Mysti

The session continues for a long time, mainly with a conversation between Lugh and Lucinda. As I left at that point (session had been going on for two hours already), I won't comment further.

Lucinda and Lugh 

--BELL--

mystica Triellis: smiles
mystica Triellis: nice to meet you too
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm that was great Luci ;)
Lucinda Lavender: nice to meet you Mysti:)
Lucinda Lavender: oh...not really practiced up...but oh well
Sunshine Vayandar: ( at least boxy had flutes ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: hehe me neither I never play the guitar
Lucinda Lavender: did you play the flutes Boxy?
Sunshine Vayandar: he used to
Sunshine Vayandar: but now boxy is no more
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Lucinda Lavender: ah...
Sunshine Vayandar: ty both it was a great chat
Lucinda Lavender: this was fun Sun...
Lucinda Lavender: thank you for playing....
Sunshine Vayandar: I will teach you Malaika next time
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)) u can teach me blues
Sunshine Vayandar: ( just an idea ;p)
Lucinda Lavender: ok...I can study up with youtube perhaps
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)) no study necessary really
Lucinda Lavender: ah...
Lucinda Lavender: ok:)
Sunshine Vayandar: we shall see how it can work
Lucinda Lavender: yes:)
Sunshine Vayandar: ok I give you a link ;)
Lucinda Lavender: good
Sunshine Vayandar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpl8rPQBASU
Lucinda Lavender: Luci always wonders why she in not successful at sending links...
Sunshine Vayandar: simple melody
Sunshine Vayandar: how come?
Lucinda Lavender: great thank you so much!
Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
Lucinda Lavender: i do not know why...maybe I don't do it right
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm
Sunshine Vayandar: you can still try if you have that song
Alfred Kelberry: meep!
Sunshine Vayandar: that blues song
Alfred Kelberry: sun you leaving?
Lucinda Lavender: I will see if I can find it...
Sunshine Vayandar: yes must go
Lucinda Lavender: bye for now:)
Alfred Kelberry: ok, thank you zulu girl :)
Sunshine Vayandar: I will learn by next time ;)
Lucinda Lavender: Deep River Blues
Sunshine Vayandar: you are very welcome ;))
Sunshine Vayandar: ok I will look tyty
Sunshine Vayandar: oh I can see many versions
Alfred Kelberry: bye, luci. thank you for the angel voice :)
Lugh Fehr: hellow again
Sunshine Vayandar: hellowww
Sunshine Vayandar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyQOCJ4SUSk
Lucinda Lavender: when I try to paste here
Lugh Fehr: blues nice!
Sunshine Vayandar: yes it's very nice
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm must gooo byebyee ty for the music Luci ;)
Lugh Fehr: you like happy songs dont you hehe
Lucinda Lavender: sure enough:)
Lugh Fehr: byebye
Lucinda Lavender: bye:)
Lucinda Lavender: seems a happy song for the blues...
Lugh Fehr: yes very hehe i like depressed melodies better for some reason hehe but this is great
Lucinda Lavender: I come from a place with a lot of rain:)
Lugh Fehr: hehe where you come from then?
Lucinda Lavender: Seattle Washington
Lucinda Lavender: How about you?
Lugh Fehr: malta
Lucinda Lavender: wow!
Lugh Fehr: not so much hehe
Lucinda Lavender: do you have a song from your country?
Lugh Fehr: well the best i got is a song about malta written by the malta community in australia
Lucinda Lavender: would love to hear it...
Lugh Fehr: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT17sRsczhY
Lucinda Lavender: nice!!!!
Lugh Fehr: after i show you the traditonal music
Lucinda Lavender: like the style and how much fun they are having!!
Lugh Fehr: they look like fun characters

--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: tappin my feet
Lugh Fehr: me oo
Lugh Fehr: too :D
Lugh Fehr: this song makes just a very lil bit patriotic hehe and thats a weird feeling for me heheh
Lugh Fehr: this is the traditional music
Lugh Fehr: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPy88ySh14Q
Lugh Fehr: it takes getting used to i guess hehe
Lucinda Lavender: wow...I love to hear music like this..strong, of the country...
Lugh Fehr: they rhyme in the spirit of the moment inprovised and its even hard for me to understand what they actually saying
Lucinda Lavender: ah...I see:)
Lucinda Lavender: each putting their own statement in...
Lucinda Lavender: own
Lugh Fehr: yes generally they offered each other in a playfulway
Lucinda Lavender: nothing like getting a group together to sing...
Lugh Fehr: even as kids that was our main game hehe offending each other in playfull manner ...or half playfull to say the least hehe
Lucinda Lavender: nodding...
Lucinda Lavender: interesting...each demonstrates what he know I guess...
Lucinda Lavender: their voices sound very similar!
Lugh Fehr: we dont have a strong culture though we come from a long long line of peasants and pirates wev been conquered by everybody and our cultre is quite thine
Lucinda Lavender: they are not laughing..
Lugh Fehr: bought and sold for a long time
Lucinda Lavender: ah...
Lugh Fehr: it must be a serious one then or nobodys ontherstanding a word they saying hehe :) i switched off myself a bit hard on the ears whitout a couple of glasses of wine hehe
Lucinda Lavender: :))))
Lucinda Lavender: ok good then...:)
Lugh Fehr: :)
Lucinda Lavender: I am having a day off so would not usually be here at this time...its is fun to learn of others cultures :)
Lucinda Lavender: I can show you the youtube of my son...:)
Lucinda Lavender: he is a guitar player...
Lugh Fehr: yes :) i like it too :) so hows life in washington?
Lugh Fehr: yes nice sure
Lucinda Lavender: it is ok for this time...
Lucinda Lavender: Look up Busk Break Will and Clarence...I cannot put links in here yet:)
Lucinda Lavender: we are a small family with two kids grown and out of the house:)
Lugh Fehr: which one is yours the one with the glasses or the other one?
Lucinda Lavender: glasses
Lugh Fehr: (its loading)
Lugh Fehr: wow butiful voice as well!

--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: aw thanks:)
Lugh Fehr: very groovy
Lugh Fehr: i love this style of music and they play it whit soul
Lucinda Lavender: I always loved the music of this style and somehow he has ended up there...I sing classical music...long line of musicians
Lucinda Lavender: makes me happy
Lugh Fehr: :) it should
Lugh Fehr: i have a question for you as a singer what turns a voice into a good one from a bad one or is it genetical in a sense from the shape of the voice chords or something?
Lucinda Lavender: So I guess a fellow from Seattle can go and travel and learn the music of other parts of his country...
Lucinda Lavender: ah...
Lugh Fehr: i got the moves right but my voice is atrotios heheh :P
Lugh Fehr: is he on the road ?
Lucinda Lavender: well this is a good question...I have studied voice some and there are parts of the register that will come through more easily I think...experiment with how low and high you can go....practice by lying on the ground and vocalizing up higher than you thought you could go...your voice is a muscle...
Lucinda Lavender: do stretching to open the front of the chest..like in yoga
Lugh Fehr: ahh im a half backed pro yogi heheh
Lucinda Lavender: son is settling in the Appalachian mts...
Lugh Fehr: hmm weird name never heard of the place which part is it in?
Lucinda Lavender: for high notes you can raise the dome at the back of the throat
Lucinda Lavender: what does half backed mean?
Lugh Fehr: hehe like a half baked cake
Lucinda Lavender: ah!
Lugh Fehr: not actually done yet but its a cake
Lugh Fehr: hehhe
Lucinda Lavender: get it!!
Lucinda Lavender: me too!
Lugh Fehr: yeah you do yoga
Lucinda Lavender: North Carolina
Lugh Fehr: what kind?
Lucinda Lavender: yes:) to yoga...has kept my back in better shape
Lucinda Lavender: vinyasa I think it is called
Lucinda Lavender: am going to a new studio for it...and that is what they call it
Lucinda Lavender: what kind for you?
Lucinda Lavender: it has helped my singing immensely
Lugh Fehr: i do all kinds basicly i especially focus on the yoga of the mind but i love body yoga too
Lucinda Lavender: ah
Lucinda Lavender: yoga of the mind...meditation?
Lugh Fehr: yes but in a yogic way at least thats what i call it i think its best defined as yoga
Lugh Fehr: but i dont really care for bondaries in what meditations i do
Lugh Fehr: i do buddhist practices taoistr alchemical what ever i could get my hands on and thats part of the reason hwy i call it yoga
Lucinda Lavender: ah yes...my teacher was a Korean Buddhist monk I think and now he has started a yoga studio...Yoon's Yoga Bliss...I have only visited twice but am inspired
Lucinda Lavender: he has a nice website
Lucinda Lavender: we did a lovely meditation yesterday where we settled into our bodies and said I am fine:)
Lucinda Lavender: very simple and sweet...
Lugh Fehr: :) nice ...ah looks like a sweet guy very buddhisty

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Lugh Fehr: after all buddhism is a refined in its unique way yoga and they all evolved from shamanism i think for me yoga is the art of manipulating the mind and body in the way you want it to be and in the process you find the famous union hehe
Lugh Fehr: cool web
Lucinda Lavender: I found that the energy moving in the body was quite knowable from what he would say to us about it...
Lucinda Lavender: this is new to me...hearing words that describe energy..
Lugh Fehr: ahh in yoga you feel a certain high dont you
Lucinda Lavender: well in the moment I mean...warmth was the impression I had warmth moving through the body
Lucinda Lavender: caused a lovely settling for the mind at the end
Lugh Fehr: both yoga and drugs have a very simile experience
Lugh Fehr: yes my mind settles down a lot after body yoga
Lucinda Lavender: a certain releasing comes with the stretching I guess
Lugh Fehr: the yoga also balances your hormones its even scientifically proven and all
Lucinda Lavender: makes sense...
Lugh Fehr: so after without the chemicals to support the feeling of anger and over lust or under lust the mind feels calm
Lucinda Lavender: a part of healing from the intensity…yoga could be
Lucinda Lavender: moving energy around in the body
Lugh Fehr: yes :)
Lugh Fehr: ever heard some yogi masters speak on you tube?
Lucinda Lavender: no that would be interesting...
Lugh Fehr: they are a lot of bullshitters but the genuine ones are terrific let me find you a good one
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Lugh Fehr: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jagOYDYACg
Lugh Fehr: havent seen this one yet
Lugh Fehr: but the guru is genuine i think
Lucinda Lavender: interesting...
Lugh Fehr: in a few months or years i go find this guy in india ..this and another guy
Lucinda Lavender: ah..sounds like an adventure:)
Lucinda Lavender: he has a nice voice

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Lugh Fehr: brb just one sec
Lucinda Lavender: he seems very genuine and sensible ...yes
Lucinda Lavender: enjoyed that...
Lugh Fehr: sorry back my sister came and i gave her the painting
Lucinda Lavender: oh wow! great!
Lugh Fehr: hes a kyra yogi the one yoga i have no idea about
Lugh Fehr: it is said that it was started by guru ji an immortal in the himalayas he even has an ashram there and shows up every once in a while ... i dont really buy into all that hyp but i do love a good story
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Lugh Fehr: :)
Lucinda Lavender: well I sense that we are visited by feeling from outside the present moment sometimes
Lucinda Lavender: and for me it becomes apparent in dreams
Lucinda Lavender: images that will be possibilities etc
Lucinda Lavender: from outside present perceptions
Lugh Fehr: well life is a strange thing far fetched i like to call it :) hehe and being reality theres a sort of pun in there
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Lugh Fehr: heheh would you ever have believed that life was real if you arent in one?
Lucinda Lavender: HI Xirana
Lugh Fehr: hey xirana
Xirana Oximoxi: hi Lugh and Lucinda!
Lucinda Lavender: not sure there...the two Lu's
Lugh Fehr: hehe
Lucinda Lavender: he he
Lugh Fehr: grab a cushion if you got time to kill
Lucinda Lavender: I think I should be saying thank you for this conversation...and moving on to do some thing in the RL
Lugh Fehr: :) tnx you too :) it was lovely
Lucinda Lavender: my it has been a lovely conversation:)
Xirana Oximoxi: I go now.. wish you nice time!!!
Lugh Fehr: you too xir
Lugh Fehr: :)
Lucinda Lavender: thanks...:)
Xirana Oximoxi: TY:)
Lugh Fehr: adios
Lucinda Lavender: adios to all:0