2010.03.10 13:00 - Sutrayana is mostly Lam Rim

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Liza Deischer: hi Bert

Bertram Jacobus: 4hello lisa - "kaltxí ... ;-)

Bertram Jacobus: i think, i'm a typo king , sry ... ;-)

Bertram Jacobus: fef ! :-))

Liza Deischer: :-)

Liza Deischer: hi Fonz

Bertram Jacobus: long time no see :-)

Bertram Jacobus: whether his inet connection still is so badly ? ... :-/

Liza Deischer: probably

Bertram Jacobus: looks like sadly ...

Bertram Jacobus: so ... may i ask? how is your spiritual practise going liza ? :-)

Liza Deischer: well, being very tired lately

Liza Deischer: and practicing is very hard then

Fefonz Quan: hy all :)

Liza Deischer: but always need to do my prayers

Liza Deischer: hi Fonz

Bertram Jacobus: hello fef again - could you read our hellos before ?

Fefonz Quan: sure!

Bertram Jacobus: ah good prayers how much time a day then is that liza ?

Fefonz Quan: good to see you too N'avi bert :)

Bertram Jacobus: few minutes or also kinda pujas, longer ?

Liza Deischer: 20-30 minutes when I do it fast

Bertram Jacobus: ty fef - you knew it already ? :-)

Liza Deischer: 2 days if I take the time :-)

Fefonz Quan: knew what?

Bertram Jacobus: whaow - that's not nothing liza ! :-))

Liza Deischer: hey Cal

Bertram Jacobus: happy to hear that (!) :-)

Bertram Jacobus: my na'vi ava fef

Calvino Rabeni: Hi everyone :)

Liza Deischer: well, most of the time it is 30 minutes

Bertram Jacobus: hello cal :-)

Fefonz Quan: no, first time for me Bert

Fefonz Quan: hello Cal\

Bertram Jacobus: i love it so much and being on pandora here - must admit fef - atm dominates my sl activities ... ;-)

Liza Deischer: no puja's, saddhanas

Bertram Jacobus: ok. saddhanas. ty.

Fefonz Quan: saddhanas?

Bertram Jacobus: buddhistic practises

Liza Deischer: buddhist prayers

Fefonz Quan: no Bert, so i guess there is a Pandora here...

Fefonz Quan: ok, that's what i thought

Bertram Jacobus: i know it not only as prayers - also visualisations, silence and all that can be part of a saddhana - no liza ?

Liza Deischer: true

Bertram Jacobus: "no" fef ? related to what was that, please ? ;-)

Fefonz Quan: Is there a special tradition you're following Liza?

Liza Deischer: visualisations are important in buddhist practice

Bertram Jacobus: in vajrayana ... yes

Fefonz Quan: (related to being in Pandora)

Liza Deischer: Saddhana is Vajrayana

Fefonz Quan: yes i see.

Liza Deischer: yes

Liza Deischer: but visualisations are also important in Sutrayana

Bertram Jacobus: is there another word for sutrayana ? or where is it practised . i am not sure with that, not familiar enough, not knowing (?) ...

Liza Deischer: Sutrayana is mostly Lam Rim, the path

Liza Deischer: Vajrayana is tantra

Fefonz Quan: I thought vajrayana combines both

Bertram Jacobus: okay ... ty ...

Liza Deischer: actually no, Vajrayana also means you need to do Sutrayana practice

Liza Deischer: Sutrayana can be practised on itself, Vajrayana not

Fefonz Quan: Hi Agatha!

Agatha Macbeth: Hey Fonzie

Agatha Macbeth: Hello everyone

Agatha Macbeth: Hi blue Berti :)

Liza Deischer: hi Agatha

Fefonz Quan: its a nice b&w costume you have

Agatha Macbeth: Why thank you :)

Agatha Macbeth: Just a liitle something i found in my wardrobe ;-)

--BELL--

Bertram Jacobus: hy black and white agatha ! ;-)

Bertram Jacobus: as always : i'm slow ... :o)

Agatha Macbeth: :)

Agatha Macbeth: I'm black & white and you're blue!

Bertram Jacobus: that's right - does that have special meanings ? ;-)

Bertram Jacobus: hello arch -

Liza Deischer: hi Arch

Agatha Macbeth: Who knows Bert, who knows? :)

Agatha Macbeth: Hey Arch

Fefonz Quan humms: i'm blue yabadi yabada...

Bertram Jacobus: may be you agatha ? do you ? :-)

Agatha Macbeth: Er.............42

Bertram Jacobus: hehe . heard the song shortly before fef. guess why (!?) ... ;-)

Bertram Jacobus: hey bleu :-)

Fefonz Quan: somebody told you?

Agatha Macbeth: Hi Bleu (again)

Fefonz Quan: Hey Bleu, great timing ;-)

Bertram Jacobus: was a talk about colours, yes fef ... ;-)

Liza Deischer: hi bleu

Bleu Oleander: hi all

Agatha Macbeth: Nice walk :)

Bertram Jacobus: lol

Bleu Oleander: timing?

Agatha Macbeth: No such thing as time

Bertram Jacobus: we just talked about blue ;-)

Bleu Oleander: my fav

Fefonz Quan: yes, but timing maybe is :)

Agatha Macbeth: Blue is the colour....

Bertram Jacobus: thing ? (lol)

Bleu Oleander: yeah!

Fefonz Quan: (does it say you're not american Agatha?)

Agatha Macbeth: What?

Archmage Atlantis: My mom

Archmage Atlantis: sorry

Archmage Atlantis: Bad hands

Fefonz Quan: the colour syntax

Bertram Jacobus: but with one i will be quick today (before i said i'm mostly slow) - will leave before the next bell ...

Bleu Oleander: (can't quite pick up on the subject ...)

Agatha Macbeth: Ah, right

Agatha Macbeth: Is there one?

Archmage Atlantis: My mothers favorite color was blue

Bleu Oleander: so it's not just me?

Fefonz Quan: it vanished along with the object :)

Liza Deischer: (I don't think there is one bleu)

Agatha Macbeth: Nah Bleu :)

Agatha Macbeth: If it's you it must be me too

Bertram Jacobus: some blue will disappera quickly

Fefonz Quan: helo arch

Liza Deischer: I'm leaving

Calvino Rabeni: GTG - carry on intrepid explorers! :)

Liza Deischer: cu

Bertram Jacobus: bye liza

Bleu Oleander: bye Liza

Agatha Macbeth: BFN Liza

Fefonz Quan: bye Liza

Agatha Macbeth: Something happening at Kira?

Bertram Jacobus: hy zon

Bleu Oleander: what's that?

Fefonz Quan: not that i know of

Agatha Macbeth: Seems to be a synchronised exodus

Bertram Jacobus: kira cafe blue. a place where some meetings take place ...

Bleu Oleander: yes, but maybe because no subject

Fefonz Quan: maybe we didn't manage to keep the discussion on interesting level...

Bleu Oleander: cafe Bleu

Archmage Atlantis: Something is happening.....KIRA is only a gathering point

Agatha Macbeth: Ah, it's Gilles night

Agatha Macbeth: I just an IM

Agatha Macbeth: Totally forgot about that!

Agatha Macbeth: I'll go too at the next bell....

Fefonz Quan: But we are open to subject suggestions Bleu

Bertram Jacobus: what is gilles night ?

Zon Quar: hi all

Agatha Macbeth: A night starring Mr Wolf!!!

Fefonz Quan: hello Zon

Bleu Oleander: I suggested at the last PaB, that at the pause we all think about dropping the same think

Bleu Oleander: thing

Agatha Macbeth: Aloha Zon

Bleu Oleander: and then discuss it

Bleu Oleander: i.e. nationality

Fefonz Quan: sounds good. so what would we drop in a minute?

Agatha Macbeth: Nationality?

Bertram Jacobus: nice ideas ... but sry - as i said before - leave now ... cu all have a nice time

Bertram Jacobus: cu

Fefonz Quan: bye Bert

Bleu Oleander: bye

Bleu Oleander: next time maybe

Archmage Atlantis: What thinking point should be dropped?

--BELL--

Zon Quar: lets drop "I"

Agatha Macbeth: Il me faut sortir maintenant

Agatha Macbeth: See, it worked!?!

Fefonz Quan: oui, tres bon!

Zon Quar: what is on Kira ? a lecture ?

Archmage Atlantis: "i" is myself\

Fefonz Quan: i think it's Gilles' philosophy workshop today

Bleu Oleander: I'm going to check out what is at Kira .... c u :)

Zon Quar: me 2

Fefonz Quan: bye Bleu

Zon Quar: bye

Fefonz Quan: (and Zon)

Fefonz Quan: makes me wanna follow them too...

Archmage Atlantis: Yea me too FFonz

Archmage Atlantis: But we have to wake up Cal

Fefonz Quan: hey Ara

arabella Ella: Hiya

Fefonz Quan: Ara, we want to go to the kira seminar, is it ok with you? (many other have gone some minutes ago)

arabella Ella: yes that's fine with me

arabella Ella: i don't think i am up to the philo seminar tonite though :)

arabella Ella: am lagging terribly

arabella Ella: how are you Archmage?

arabella Ella: seems everyone else here is asleep