The Guardian for this meeting was Lia Rikugun. The comments are by Lia Rikugun.
Lia Rikugun: hello calvinothere just had been a little story about Play as Being on the blog "New World Notes" http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2010/03/play-as-being-in-second-life.html, so we were curious to see if new visitors would come to the pavilion
Calvino Rabeni: Hi Lia
Lia Rikugun: so maybe we will have a crowded session troday ! :)
Calvino Rabeni: Yes I am just reading the blog about this place
Lia Rikugun: hello susi
Lia Rikugun: autch you are standing on my head
Lia Rikugun: hehe
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Susi Alcott: please accept my apology
Susi Alcott: had not rezzed
Lia Rikugun: of course no problem ;)
Lia Rikugun: have we met before?
Lia Rikugun: susi have we met before?
Lia Rikugun: hello yaku!
--BELL--
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
Susi Alcott: hi Yaku
Susi Alcott: I do not remember that we had met Lia
Lia Rikugun: well nice to meet you then :) but you have been here before?
Lia Rikugun: hello archmage
Susi Alcott: nice to meet you too; yes; more than a year
Calvino Rabeni: Susi has been here many times
Susi Alcott: hello my bro
Lia Rikugun: haha ok great!
Archmage Atlantis: Hello Lia, Cal, Susi, Yak.....and greetings
Lia Rikugun: hi eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Hi! :)
Susi Alcott: hi Eliza
Eliza Madrigal waits for cushions
Lia Rikugun: spring is here! and I am eating ice cream! yeay!!
Lia Rikugun: :D
Lia Rikugun: how are you all?
Archmage Atlantis: Smiles
Susi Alcott: grins _/!\_
Yakuzza Lethecus: fine, and i am facinated by the colorful pavillion
Eliza Madrigal: hm. The pavillion is witholding cushions from me today...
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, there they are
Archmage Atlantis: I said that a dark shadow had passed from the planet to someone.....then that entity said the equinox just passed.....and I said, Oh of course smile
Yakuzza Lethecus: does everyone got all these colors on the pavillion ?
Lia Rikugun: what colors?
Eliza Madrigal: maybe just your karma, Ya :)
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Lia Rikugun: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Did everyone see the blog article?
Susi Alcott: no
Lia Rikugun: yes just reading a bit of it right now
Eliza Madrigal: http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2010/03/play-as-being-in-second-life.html
Lia Rikugun: http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2010/03/pla...cond-life.html
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Lia Rikugun: :)
Eliza Madrigal: When I read this I think "Wow, this is pretty neat... I want to see what that's about" hehe
Lia Rikugun: haha, lets see what others think
Eliza Madrigal: I would expect that if people visit due to the article, it will be over the course of days
Susi Alcott: Hi Storm
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Storm :)
Calvino Rabeni: The blog creates an objectivity around what happens here, making it seem somewhat more real
Lia Rikugun: hello storm
Storm Nordwind: Hi all :)
Eliza Madrigal: Welcome :)
Calvino Rabeni: "PlayAsBeing, a meditation/communal focus group that meets several times a day to shar their practice."
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Wol :)
Calvino Rabeni: *share
Lia Rikugun: hi wol
Wol Euler: hello everyone
Susi Alcott: Hello Wol
Lia Rikugun: we were talking about the article on the blog
Wol Euler: New World News?
Eliza Madrigal nods
Lia Rikugun: and waiting for the mass of people who will come every second now ;)
Wol Euler: I already mailed him to correct the times :)
Eliza Madrigal: That was fast... must say
Storm Nordwind: I spoke to Pema on the phone who tracked him down to change the times
Wol Euler: good :)
Wol Euler: quite a good story, sympathetic
Storm Nordwind: However, we've decided to be here at 4pm SLT too, just in case
Eliza Madrigal: I would guess it will have more of an effect over days rather than 'today' necessarily... and yes I do like the article itself, too
Eliza Madrigal: Good idea Storm
"Let's hurry to relax"
"real, not-real" music in the head
Lia Rikugun: "(Personally I like it. I joked to Piet that whenever I do go to yoga, I end up rushing to gym, fighting through traffic while screaming I HAVE GOT TO GET TO FRICKING YOGA!)" I like this
Lia Rikugun: have the same feeling some time
Wol Euler chuckles
Lia Rikugun: "ahhh, i need to hurry home to relax" :)
Eliza Madrigal: hehehe, yes
Archmage Atlantis: Times are one of the most difficult issues to deal with in SL........especially if the other entity is partway around the world
--BELL--
a moment of being
Lia Rikugun: i had an interesting thought yesterday and want to hear if you had similar experiences
Eliza Madrigal listens
Wol Euler listens
Lia Rikugun: while going home after my flute lessons
Archmage Atlantis: pls share
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Lia Rikugun: i was listening to music in my head
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Lia Rikugun: but there was no "real" music
Lia Rikugun: but i heard it loud and clear!
Lia Rikugun: :)
Wol Euler nods.
Lia Rikugun: and somehow I then felt while playing the flute i was not doing music
Lia Rikugun: but sometimes become the music
Wol Euler smiles and nods vigorously
Lia Rikugun: so i liked this idea
Eliza Madrigal: the music plays itself and you in it perhaps.... mmm
Wol Euler: it's a lovely state of being
Lia Rikugun: its amazing, a whole concert
Susi Alcott: got such experiences when I sang
Lia Rikugun: but nothing
Eliza Madrigal: restful feeling?
Archmage Atlantis: To become one with the process.......as when a visual artist paints....or a writer of stories writes
Susi Alcott: and when danced
Lia Rikugun: yes susi?
Lia Rikugun: yes archmage i thought it was great
Storm Nordwind: It's wonderful to be part of that. So different to when one is still playing but when mindfulness drifts.
Wol Euler nods.
Eliza Madrigal: seems beyond effort
Wol Euler: a moment of Wu wei, really: playing music without playing it
Storm Nordwind: You become part of the story, instead of just reading the story or listening to it being read.
Lia Rikugun: when i came home I put on music and just daced :) this was great too haha!
Wol Euler smiles.
Lia Rikugun: danced
Eliza Madrigal will be right back... about 5 minutes...
Lia Rikugun: seey ou later
dance places and dancing in SL and RL
Archmage Atlantis: I do not know how to describe that except as a moment of being
Lia Rikugun: i am always wondering, what is really a moment of being? :)
Lia Rikugun: i have no idea
Lia Rikugun: maybe not thinking too much about oneself
Lia Rikugun: hm
Archmage Atlantis: I don't think there are words that describe it.....
Wol Euler: that is a great part of it, I am sure: being totally immersed in, consumed by, some process outside yourself
Lia Rikugun: yes always tricky
Archmage Atlantis: putting down words breaks the oneness
Susi Alcott: brb
Storm Nordwind: If we put our ideas of what moments of being are (and aren't) on a pedestal, I suspect we will miss them all!
Lia Rikugun: bye susi
Lia Rikugun: see you later
Wol Euler: :)
Wol Euler: or stub our toes on them
Lia Rikugun: wow! susi
Lia Rikugun: PARTY!
Wol Euler: that was pretty
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Susi Alcott: just wanted to check that the LM shall be right
Wol Euler: ty
Lia Rikugun: thank you
Wol Euler: what is this, Susi?
Pema, Yaku and Eliza start dancing!!
Susi Alcott: there is very special dance castle
Wol Euler: ah :)
Susi Alcott: with several dance floors
Wol Euler: sounds good
Susi Alcott: when one steps onto the white one
Susi Alcott: better to have music off
Susi Alcott: and set it on together when both are on the dance ball
Susi Alcott: I be there is not such other in whole SL
Susi Alcott: bet
--BELL--
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey pema
Susi Alcott: dont know anybody who was not impressed when danced that one play there is on that dance floor
Susi Alcott: Hi Pema
Lia Rikugun: hello pema
Pema Pera: Hi everybody!
Wol Euler: helloo pema
Pema Pera: no new visitors so far?
Wol Euler grins.
Lia Rikugun: no :)
Archmage Atlantis: All things in time
Susi Alcott: and yes; with purpose I keep it as the 'secret' what play there is
Lia Rikugun: we are talking about dancing
Lia Rikugun: and being the dance and the music pema
Pema Pera: (slowly rezzing still)
Pema Pera: did you actually dance? :)
Lia Rikugun: susi did in SL right?
Susi Alcott: have few times danced myself also
Lia Rikugun: cool :)
Lia Rikugun: professional dancing?
Calvino Rabeni: When people "dance" in SL, do they move around the floor in RL at the same time?
Susi Alcott: well...in RL
Susi Alcott: was a teacher of dance for a while
Susi Alcott: 'runs in family'
Lia Rikugun: oh great
Archmage Atlantis: I've pole danced in SL, but that's another story *g*
Wol Euler laughs.
Storm Nordwind chuckles
Susi Alcott: thinks that every person is very beautiful when dance...
Wol Euler: true!
Lia Rikugun: :)
Lia Rikugun: i took classes with my brother and he always stepped on my feet!!
Lia Rikugun: HAHA
Wol Euler: heheheheh
Archmage Atlantis: It is much like the music and the magic flute
Susi Alcott: grins
Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
Lia Rikugun: i guess that looked funny too for others
Wol Euler: mightjust habe been deliberate?
Lia Rikugun: haha, maybe i have to ask him
Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s funny when we do onigokko sometimes but seeing storm and pema doing the choc disco 2 days ago was kinda special :)
Lia Rikugun: he didnt seem to have a feeling for the rythm, and maybe because he was thinkingtoo much :)
Pema Pera: Hi Eliza!
Calvino Rabeni: Storm, is it possible in SL to make the avatar body semi-transparent, and perhaps to drift through space?
Lia Rikugun: choc disco??!
Wol Euler: very likely, lia!
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Pema, and Hi Again Everyone :)
Lia Rikugun: hi eliza
Yakuzza Lethecus: wb eliza
Wol Euler: wb eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks :)
Susi Alcott: Hi Eliza
imagined and real experiences
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Eliza Madrigal: now must wait to be graced with cushions again... hehe
Lia Rikugun: wow pema what do you want to tell us?
Yakuzza Lethecus: ãƒãƒ§ã‚³ãƒ¬ã‚¤ãƒˆãƒ»ãƒ‡ã‚£ã‚¹ã‚³ ♪
Yakuzza Lethecus: Chokoreito Disco ♪
Archmage Atlantis: I would think all is possible in a virtual world, once it is programmed
Wol Euler: :)
Eliza Madrigal: ãƒãƒ§ã‚³ãƒ¬ã‚¤ãƒˆãƒ»ãƒ‡ã‚£ã‚¹ã‚³ ♪
Wol Euler laughs
Lia Rikugun: haha ver nice
Eliza Madrigal giggles.... maybe don't need cushions
Wol Euler: well, I guess the only way to follow that
Wol Euler: is with an
Pema Pera: :-)
Susi Alcott: wb Storm
Wol Euler: onigokko
Yakuzza Lethecus: good that we don´t have new visitors :)
Wol Euler laughs.
Eliza Madrigal: hahaha Ya
Eliza Madrigal: More than one person has said they were hooked by onigokko
Eliza Madrigal: ;-)
Eliza Madrigal: stop
Archmage Atlantis: Sort of like a line dance with no line
Lia Rikugun: so much fun!
Eliza Madrigal: lineless, danceless line dance...
Storm Nordwind: more like synchronized pandemonium
Eliza Madrigal: :)))
Archmage Atlantis: something like chaos theory
Archmage Atlantis: Although synchronized pandemonium kinda describes all of life
Wol Euler: :)
--BELL--
Archmage Atlantis: Blessings and Namaste.....thank you all for the good conversation
Susi took a different seat so that 4 people were facing 4 people :) symmetric formation
Lia Rikugun: i am still thinking about this concert in my head, and how an imagined experience can feel soo real, there only seems to be a small difference between a real experineceand an imagined one
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Pema Pera: yes indeed!
Wol Euler: yep
Eliza Madrigal: yesterday susi led us in a little story/imaginary walk.... caused me to think of your sallying Lia :)
Lia Rikugun: oh really i am interested
Lia Rikugun: please tell me
"dangerous" aspects of such a journey done in SL
Wol Euler cheers! symmetry again. ty susi
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Susi Alcott: sry; couldn't help myeself to seek the balance
Susi Alcott: cheers :)))))))
Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni now imagines moving to a different pillow to see what will happen
Eliza Madrigal: it was different, but a bit of a demonstration in some ways of how it is possible to venture inwardly together....
Calvino Rabeni: Yes, a guided medition or journey
Calvino Rabeni: The group-ness of it adds a dimension
Lia Rikugun: so were did you go?
Calvino Rabeni: A walk in the forest
Eliza Madrigal: just a little walk through a forest and to a fence... then each had their own view
Lia Rikugun: wow cool
Wol Euler: great
Lia Rikugun: i need to read the log when was this?
Calvino Rabeni: It would be interesting to do it again sometime - where the suggestion at the end is that everyone finds an object and meets around a pond in a clearing in the forest, after a personal journey
Calvino Rabeni: Then you can compare the results collectively
Calvino Rabeni: What did you find, what did you bring to the meeting?
Wol Euler: oh, good idea.
Eliza Madrigal: yesterday... fef will post it soon I'm sure...
Eliza Madrigal nods @ Cal
Lia Rikugun: ah ok cool, i am so curious now ;)
Pema Pera: well, yes, I also like those kinds of explorations, but personally I prefer to keep them for RL sessions
Susi Alcott: well...we'de take that journey ?
Pema Pera: where we can see each other, and really be together
Pema Pera: there are so many unknowns when meeting avatars here . . . .
Pema Pera: when we followed Lia in Malta it was very clear what happened
Pema Pera: and we were really together
Wol Euler nods.
Pema Pera: while here in SL everything is far more tentative
Wol Euler: I see your point
Calvino Rabeni: In the last Cafh class, in the meditation it was suggested to be able to reach through the screen and the little cartoon avatars and penetrate that veil to something realer
Eliza Madrigal: hm, undersandable...
Yakuzza Lethecus: hi liza :)
Storm Nordwind is going to check that Vector Marksman is OK for week 4 of his "Cafh: Daily life as spiritual practice" workshop that starts in the Kira Cafe in four minutes.
Eliza Madrigal: Hello Liza :)
Storm Nordwind waves
Susi Alcott: Hi LIza
Wol Euler: oooh!
Pema Pera: I for one would not want to be responsible for what happens in living rooms elsewhere in the world where I've never been with people I've never met . . . . .
Wol Euler: finally I can attend one!!
Liza Deischer: hi everyone
Yakuzza Lethecus: ah yes
Wol Euler: hello liza
Lia Rikugun: hi liza
Pema Pera: enjoy!
Pema Pera: I can't come; have to introduce Hamlet to my colleagues in 15 minutes
Yakuzza Lethecus: hamlet ?
Wol Euler: ah :)
Eliza Madrigal: That's sure to be an interesting talk
Susi Alcott: ah well; that journey is prefere to do by oneself and for onself
Wol Euler: Mr. Au.
Lia Rikugun: how interesting, he will give a talk about SL?
Pema Pera: yes!
Wol Euler: wow, that would be great to hear
Calvino Rabeni: Recording?
Pema Pera: no
Pema Pera: voice, not text :-)
Pema Pera: (and no video)
Pema Pera: very informal
Calvino Rabeni: That would be interesting to see
Calvino Rabeni: What is the setting - auditorium?
Calvino Rabeni: Ah, 2pm - I must off, to Kira Cafe. Thanks everyone.
Yakuzza Lethecus: cya at cafh, or have a nice day everyone
Wol Euler: me too!
Wol Euler: take care, be happy
Lia Rikugun: byebye
Pema Pera: yes, bye everybody!
--BELL--
Lia Rikugun: you all take care, I will leave too
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Lia, Wol, Pema
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Eliza Madrigal: I'm not going to stay... signed on without having planned to...
Eliza Madrigal: wanting to be help...
Liza Deischer: I'm going too
Eliza Madrigal: May come back later :)
Eliza Madrigal: Bye guys
Liza Deischer: cy
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
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