2010.03.22 13:00 - Good to be Back

The Guardian for this meeting was Mickorod Renard.

Wol Euler: hjello mick
Mickorod Renard: Hiya Wol
Liza Deischer: hi mick
Mickorod Renard: Hi Liza
Mickorod Renard: how are you both?
Wol Euler: looking forward to getting to bed early tonight
Liza Deischer: :-)
Mickorod Renard: yes, I know what you mean Wol
Mickorod Renard: Hiya Yaku
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
Liza Deischer: hi Yaku
Wol Euler: hello yaku
Mickorod Renard: I was thinking today how because I had left home late to go to work I didnt get into enjoying the trip like I often do
Wol Euler nods.
Liza Deischer: and it was such beautiful weather
Wol Euler: hello qt
Liza Deischer: at least, it was here
Liza Deischer: hi QT
Qt Core: Hi all
Wol Euler: hello eliza
Mickorod Renard: I am not sure what I need to address,,is it that I shud have said to myself,,enjoy what else can I do,,or,,,maybe I shuoul have just left earlier and learn the lesson
Qt Core: got finally home early wol ?
Liza Deischer: hi eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Hi! :)))))
Mickorod Renard: Hiya Eliza,,QT
Liza Deischer: Agatha jumped in the water :-)
Agatha Macbeth: Evening all :)
Liza Deischer: hi Agatha
Qt Core: hi Agatha
Mickorod Renard: Hi Agatha
Agatha Macbeth: he's fallen in da water :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Agatha, Qt, Wol, Mick, Liza, Ya :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hi qt,eliza,aga :)
Wol Euler: hello agatha
Liza Deischer: yes, we heard you :-)
Agatha Macbeth: Lag is hideous tonight
Eliza Madrigal: So nice to *see* everyone
Agatha Macbeth: Always nice to see you Liz :)
Mickorod Renard: aha,,there you are Ags
Eliza Madrigal smiles happily
Agatha Macbeth waves
Qt Core: there should be some issues, i didn't ever found my home sim!
Agatha Macbeth: (both arms)
Eliza Madrigal: heheh
Qt Core: even
Agatha Macbeth: REZ DAMMIT!!!!
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Wol Euler: :)))
Agatha Macbeth: ARRRRRRRRgh
Liza Deischer: hi Bleu
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hi bleu :)
Bleu Oleander: hi!
Wol Euler: eliza, you are very springlike today
Mickorod Renard: Hi Brue
Mickorod Renard: Bleu
Agatha Macbeth: (Maybe I should just guess where the cushions are)
Qt Core: hi Bleu
Eliza Madrigal: Yes, exactly how I feel too, Wol :))
Mickorod Renard: is that your dream catcher Eliza?
Wol Euler: hello bleu
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Bleu
Bleu Oleander: hi everyone
Eliza Madrigal: Hm, no.... reading the logs it seems it is a talking stick that Calvino rezzed?
Qt Core: click on it it give out notecard
Mickorod Renard: I see
Agatha Macbeth: This thingy next to me you mean?
Qt Core: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Looks like a peace=pipe
Mickorod Renard: yes
Qt Core: same function
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, I remember attending an event and we resorted to using a banana....
Agatha Macbeth: ???
Eliza Madrigal: showing who had the floor, so to speak :)
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Mickorod Renard: sounds interesting Eliza
Agatha Macbeth: Banana relay?
Wol Euler: :)
Eliza Madrigal: hahaha
Eliza Madrigal: yes exactly
Qt Core: it was a one banana issue discussion ?
Qt Core: (sorry programmer humor)
Eliza Madrigal: one banana at a time anyway
Qt Core: brb
Agatha Macbeth: Could have been tricky had someone dropped it
Eliza Madrigal: Wol, nice to see you.... things lightening a bit work wise?
Liza Deischer: splashhhhh :-)
Agatha Macbeth nods
Mickorod Renard: someone could have sat on it by accident
Eliza Madrigal: heheh
Wol Euler: yes, finally.
Wol Euler: it should be over by the end of this week
Agatha Macbeth: Yay!
Eliza Madrigal: Wonderful :)
Mickorod Renard: wow
Mickorod Renard: yipeee
Eliza Madrigal: Three cheers and a tiger
Wol Euler: but I've been hearing that for two weeks already
Agatha Macbeth: And now the end is near......
Liza Deischer: oh, downer
Agatha Macbeth: Adelene?
Wol Euler: no, it is definitely improving
Liza Deischer: okay :-)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Liza Deischer: well, you were early today
Liza Deischer: that's a good sign
--BELL--
Wol Euler: yep :)
Mickorod Renard: I notice the way I slip from practice of what we learn here, either for one reason or another,,and it makes a diference
Mickorod Renard: Hi Sophia SS
Agatha Macbeth: 'Twill be even better when the time gets back to normal
Eliza Madrigal: Do you notice Mick?
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sharon :)
Mickorod Renard: very much
Liza Deischer: hi sharon
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, he's over there
Bleu Oleander: hi Sharon
Eliza Madrigal: hahaha Oh Agatah
Wol Euler: hello sharon
Eliza Madrigal: Agatha, too
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hi SSL
Agatha Macbeth: I like 'Agatah'
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eliza Madrigal: I asked that way because noticing itself, seems like mindfulness...
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Wow, arial Sharon
Mickorod Renard: perhaps
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi everyone :) wonky sl again ;p
Agatha Macbeth: Tell me! :(
Eliza Madrigal: It does seem glitchy today... instead of butterflies I see circles
Mickorod Renard: some things are easier to do when the pressure is not on
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zen
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Liza Deischer: hi Zen
Bleu Oleander: hi Zen
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Zen
Mickorod Renard: but needed most when the pressure is on
Zen Arado: Hi Eliza :)
Wol Euler: hello zen
Zen Arado: Hi all
Mickorod Renard: Hi Zen
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, true Mick!
Eliza Madrigal: How is the moving in coming along?
Mickorod Renard: well,,thankfully its over except unloading whats in some boxes
Mickorod Renard: I am truly grateful for a lovely home..at last
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Eliza Madrigal nods. Congratulations... very happy for you
Mickorod Renard: a garden within a garden
Wol Euler: yes, congrats.
Mickorod Renard: thankyou
SophiaSharon Larnia: very nice
Bleu Oleander: how nice :)
Mickorod Renard: :)
Eliza Madrigal: May I ask for you to say more, Mick? about pressure/pauses/practice?
Mickorod Renard: takes me a bit longer to get to work,,but in reality its a pleasure of a drive/ride
Wol Euler: :)
Mickorod Renard: yes,,ok
Mickorod Renard: I am not really under any pressure
Mickorod Renard: but oddly I alow myself to be a tool for people who then rely on me
Mickorod Renard: and I feel obligated
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, yes
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: Shouldn't be a tool Mick ;-)
Zen Arado: don't we all:)
Mickorod Renard: but I dont mind
Wol Euler: you've mentioned this before, Mick
Mickorod Renard: so for me its not so hard to break the jam I may find myself in
Eliza Madrigal: someone once made a helpul distinction for me regarding helping others and time, etc... that sometimes one has to factor the hm, psychic pressure as well as the time itself...
Mickorod Renard: and its useful to use these situations to observe
Zen Arado: so long as tool is not = doormat
Eliza Madrigal: that some tasks take more umph than others... and it is perfectly fine to be clear. Those who know you know your loving intentions I'm sure :)
Mickorod Renard: maybe
Liza Deischer: umph ?
Mickorod Renard: :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes... hm... for instance it may take me 2 hrs to do a certain kind of shopping... but it may drain me for the whole day
Zen Arado: I'm right out of umph :)
Eliza Madrigal: whereas 2 hrs of another task, may energize
Agatha Macbeth nods
Eliza Madrigal: very personal
Mickorod Renard: yes
Zen Arado: ah yes
Mickorod Renard: its funny,,and sometimes its not any more effort,,just a frame of mind
Zen Arado: perhaps it's whether you enjoy the task though?
Eliza Madrigal yes to both
Eliza Madrigal: lots of factors I guess...
Eliza Madrigal: and sometimes the 'way' we're doing it... guess that's frame of mind...
Zen Arado: or whether you have the capability ofr the task
Eliza Madrigal: or whether we can learn to sing our way through it, or keep our pauses going.... :)
Mickorod Renard: the falling into the rut of feeling the strain is , at least for me,,,something that creeps up on me unnoticed
Eliza Madrigal: hmm...nods
Mickorod Renard: if I observe it first I deal with it ok
Mickorod Renard: if it sneaks up,,it may drag me down some before I recognise it
Eliza Madrigal: maybe observing it first gives you space to enter into whatever you're doing with patience and appreciation?
--BELL--
Mickorod Renard: Hi Ara
Zen Arado: Hi Ara
Bleu Oleander: hi Ara :)
Wol Euler: hello ara
Agatha Macbeth: Evening Ara :)
Qt Core: hi Ara
arabella Ella: Hiya everyone :)
Liza Deischer: hi ara
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Ara :)
Zen Arado: sometimes it's the thoughts 'I shouldn't have to do this' that wears us out more
Eliza Madrigal nods nods
Mickorod Renard: thats true too Zen
Zen Arado: mental energy we don't notice so much
Agatha Macbeth: Only lack of it ;-)
Eliza Madrigal: I guess it falls under the 'know yourself' category
arabella Ella hates the word 'should' and tries to eliminate it from my vocabulary
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Wol Euler: agrees with ara
Mickorod Renard: I wonder why there is this need for energy in a mental way,,physical I can comprehend
Zen Arado: it shows resistancd to reality I guess
Mickorod Renard: but it is a real drain
Zen Arado: what 'should' be
Zen Arado: but isn't
Eliza Madrigal: well... because we're not just 'do'ers... our energy is life... creativity...
Liza Deischer: sorry, need to go
Liza Deischer: cu
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Liza :)
Bleu Oleander: bye Liza
Mickorod Renard: bye Liza..nice c in u
Wol Euler: bye liza, take care
Zen Arado: bye Liza
Qt Core: bye liza
Agatha Macbeth: Cya Liza
arabella Ella: nite Liza
Zen Arado: I just realized today that things usually go wrong
Mickorod Renard: can u explain more Eliza
Mickorod Renard: re the energy?
Wol Euler: an interesting statement, zen!"
Zen Arado: yes please Eliza
Bleu Oleander: Murphy's Law?
Agatha Macbeth: To be sure
arabella Ella: new take on Murphy's Law Zen?
Zen Arado: well very often anyway
arabella Ella: snap ... Bleu
Eliza Madrigal: It isn't really a formed thought, but I'm thinking that when our hearts aren't connected to our work, it can be more draining....
Eliza Madrigal: so being creative beings....
Eliza Madrigal: gives us energy
Wol Euler: I agree, that matches my experience too
arabella Ella: yes motivation and involvement ... willingly
Eliza Madrigal nods
SophiaSharon Larnia: surely mine too
arabella Ella: challenge, interest
Mickorod Renard: I see,,interesting Eliza
Zen Arado: yes
Wol Euler: the attitude, emotional state, makes a greater difference than the task itself
Eliza Madrigal: indeed
Bleu Oleander: agree!
Zen Arado: it's resistance makes it hard?
Mickorod Renard: its food,,when you enjoy
Bleu Oleander: how you frame the task
Zen Arado: forgot about Murphy's law
Zen Arado: sounds like an Irishman too :)
Mickorod Renard: Zens Law rocks
Eliza Madrigal: :))))
arabella Ella: could it perhaps be the case that our relationship with work is like any other relationship ... sounds a bit sceptical but gets to a plateu after the honeymoon then downhill?
Mickorod Renard: Hi Hokon
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Hokon
arabella Ella: (generalising of course)
Hokon Cazalet: hi =)
arabella Ella: Hiya Hokon
Wol Euler: hello hokon
Agatha Macbeth: Hello
Wol Euler: have you been here before?
Bleu Oleander: hi Hokon
Hokon Cazalet: i was here last night
Hokon Cazalet: but yes, im new here =)
Wol Euler: ok, good, so you've had the intro :)
Hokon Cazalet: yup
Zen Arado: brb phone
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey hokon
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Hokon :)
Hokon Cazalet waves
Eliza Madrigal: Nice to meet you
Hokon Cazalet: you too =)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Mickorod Renard: :)
arabella Ella: good to see you Hokon I remember you from PH way back in SL time :)
Hokon Cazalet: =)
Hokon Cazalet: hehe yup
arabella Ella: good to see you again
Yakuzza Lethecus: on phil island :)
Hokon Cazalet: you too =)
Mickorod Renard: I am a christiana minion too Hokon
Hokon Cazalet: Yaaaaayyyyyyyy!
arabella Ella: well PI seems to have taken over quite a lot from PH now
Wol Euler: anyone whose profile tags Husserl is welcome here :)
arabella Ella: very active PI
Hokon Cazalet: hehe Wol
Eliza Madrigal: :) Wol
Hokon Cazalet: yup arabella
Hokon Cazalet: im loving husserl, reading his book "Ideas" atm
Hokon Cazalet: i plan on buying a few other books by him soon
Bleu Oleander: had a workshop on his epoche recently at Kira
Hokon Cazalet: oo
Hokon Cazalet: aw i missed it
Hokon Cazalet: i joined the kira group, cuz i heard they hold phenomenology meetings
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: Let me get a link to the site... the meetings were posted and were just wonderful
Bleu Oleander: sorry it ended!
Eliza Madrigal: http://sites.google.com/site/phenomenologyvip/
Hokon Cazalet: cool ty =)
Yakuzza Lethecus: didn´t you attend sunfire´s existential event ?
Mickorod Renard: isnt there goin to be a new class soon?
Yakuzza Lethecus: it started at 1pm and i dind´t know if i should go here or there :)
Mickorod Renard: whats that one Yaku?
Eliza Madrigal shakes head @ Mick... not on phenom.
Hokon Cazalet: i came in late, but yes yakuzza
arabella Ella: I attended one of Sunfire's sessions recently it was very interesting ... about 10 days ago ... on existentialism
Eliza Madrigal: I'm sure we can organize theme sessions along those lines here if people would like that, though
Eliza Madrigal: (re phenom)
Bleu Oleander: yes, Eliza
arabella Ella: I was wondering whether anyone here was at the recent RL meeting and whether there is any feedback which may be interesting?
Mickorod Renard: I like phenem
Hokon Cazalet: cool im gonna bookmark this site, ty eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Wonderful, Hokon :)
Hokon Cazalet: =)
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, Ara. I was there... I suppose there will be emails upcoming. Mostly we discussed the wg itself and various changes taking place every 6 months...
arabella Ella: ah ty
Mickorod Renard: I think that keeping some sort of refresher is good,,as some of our past classes seem to become distant memories
Eliza Madrigal: it was quite a bit of outlining and also issues regarding retreats and well... would want to let others maybe respond first
Eliza Madrigal nods @ Mick
Agatha Macbeth nods
arabella Ella: is feedback planned Eliza?
arabella Ella: as we had feedback from the retreat too
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, not formally... but I'd guess the guardian session will be lively
Eliza Madrigal: :)
arabella Ella: oh ... will have to miss it this Sunday :(
arabella Ella: but will definitely look up the log later
Eliza Madrigal: Mick, did you know that Maxine and Pema will have a TSK session on the 28th? Should be great.. may continue after that if goes well...
Eliza Madrigal: Sure, Ara :)
Bleu Oleander: that sounds great
Wol Euler: ooooh
Wol Euler: when?
Bleu Oleander: is it the 28?
Eliza Madrigal: And whatever you'd like to ask of course
Eliza Madrigal: Yes, the 28th at Maxine's 1PM session
Wol Euler: ty
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Mickorod Renard: wasnt there gonna be something on the Lia/Pema type thing also
Eliza Madrigal: sallies?
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye all have to go :))
arabella Ella: yes
Mickorod Renard: thanks,,sorry was distracted a mom in rl
arabella Ella: bye SSL
Mickorod Renard: bye SSl
Eliza Madrigal: I hope so, don't know about it though, Mick
Agatha Macbeth: BFN Sharon
Wol Euler: bye sharon, take care
Mickorod Renard: when is the 28th?
Wol Euler: too late
arabella Ella: Sunday
Eliza Madrigal: Sunday, Mick
Agatha Macbeth: Next Sunday
Eliza Madrigal nods
Mickorod Renard: ok ta
Mickorod Renard: I hope I remember
Eliza Madrigal: There will be reminders I'm sure
Bleu Oleander: http://playasbeing.wik.is/PaB_Theme_Sessions
Eliza Madrigal: Also you can check the theme page
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, thanks Bleu!
Bleu Oleander: yw
Eliza Madrigal: I'm looking forward to a session Eos and I are having on the Tues following at the 7PM...
Mickorod Renard: thanks
Bleu Oleander: like the theme sessions :)
Eliza Madrigal: The theme is "Be decisive, Know what is, See Clearly"... (hope I have that right) hehe
Mickorod Renard: what will that be about Eliza?
Hokon Cazalet: =)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Wol Euler: :)
Mickorod Renard: sounds great
Eliza Madrigal: It is something Eos is inspired by...
Mickorod Renard: yes
Eliza Madrigal: so I look forward to finding out, too :)
Mickorod Renard: anyone is welcome to remind me ,,anytime,,he he
Eliza Madrigal: heheheh
arabella Ella: ah that would be around 4am my time but again will catch up through log
Bleu Oleander: PaB service
Eliza Madrigal: like a wake up call?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: session call
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Mickorod Renard: that is one thing I am finding I need to adjust..as I become less freaked our about life I am becoming complacent
Wol Euler raises an eyebrow at the word "complacent"
Eliza Madrigal: I doubt that Mick, maybe you are relaxing and enjoying life... doing things in a less doing way :)
arabella Ella: ah Mick why not change 'complacent' to 'peaceful'?
Wol Euler nods
Mickorod Renard: well,,I feel like I am walking through a dream in rl
Eliza Madrigal: Nice, Ara
Agatha Macbeth: I feel like that all the time Mick
Eliza Madrigal sees nothing wrong with that
Mickorod Renard: grin
arabella Ella: maybe you too are trying to remove 'should' from your vocabulary
Bleu Oleander: wants some of what he's taking hehe
Zen Arado: maybe it's good to see that Mick
Eliza Madrigal: hahaa
Mickorod Renard: observe from a dreamer point
Zen Arado: you are waking up
--BELL--
arabella Ella whispers ... shhhh symmetry (for Wol)
Wol Euler beams. I thought so!
arabella Ella: :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Qt Core: and i could even leave without disrupting it ;-)
arabella Ella: notte Qt
Eliza Madrigal: Mick, maybe you should have a sally session with Lia ... sounds like you have thoughts about dreaming awake
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Qt :)
Qt Core: 'notte Ara, bye all
Eliza Madrigal: *should*
Agatha Macbeth: Ciao QT
Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
Eliza Madrigal: (sorry about that)
Bleu Oleander: bye Qt
Zen Arado: bye Qt
Mickorod Renard: byeeeeeee qt
Hokon Cazalet: bye Qt =)
Eliza Madrigal: I *should* have said... "Maybe you'd like to"
arabella Ella: just a brief reflection of mine today
arabella Ella: we had a nationwide powercut today
Agatha Macbeth: Oops
arabella Ella: and it felt terrible to be without power for a few hours
Eliza Madrigal: its a profound idea, Ara
Wol Euler: wow
arabella Ella: and goes to show how totally dependent we are today on energy (power)
Wol Euler: intention, or accident?
Eliza Madrigal nods
Agatha Macbeth nods @ Ara
arabella Ella: no one yet knows the cause
Hokon Cazalet: where did this happen?
arabella Ella: or at least it is not public
arabella Ella: on the little island of Malta Hokon
Mickorod Renard: yes, I find it a concern,,i like to be self dependant
Hokon Cazalet: ok
Zen Arado: do you have an interconnector to mainland Ara?
arabella Ella: most places just closed down
arabella Ella: no we dont Zen we have two fuel powered power stations running on coal and oil
Zen Arado: or is all power generated in Malta itself?
Zen Arado: would be a small syatem then
arabella Ella: yes it is Zen
Wol Euler: I was reading some time abck about a tourist resort island off the coast of Africa that has been without electricity for over half a year
arabella Ella: all locally generated
Mickorod Renard: I am lookin into ways to power my place now..solar stuff n all that
Wol Euler: they were supplied from land, and the undersea cable broke
Bleu Oleander: can't even imagine over half a year!
Eliza Madrigal: eek... what happened to the island economy, Wol?
arabella Ella: but the sad thing was i then decided to visit my parents who are elderly and they were at such a loss as evenings they enjoy watching TV to relax ... and they could not do so
Wol Euler: well, it tanked, of course :)
Wol Euler: making htem even less able to pay to have the cable repaired
Zen Arado: is Malta's population growing fast Ara?
Wol Euler: oddly enough, people seem (once the initial rage subsided) to be not very much less happy than before
Eliza Madrigal: THAT is interesting to note
arabella Ella: someone wrote than on the online newspaper Zen ... they said maybe the reason for the power cut was falling birth rates :)
Eliza Madrigal: ?
Zen Arado: perhaos generation capacity not keeping up?
arabella Ella: not at this time of the year Zen ... that happens in mid winter or mid summer not in spring
arabella Ella: must have been some fault
Zen Arado: used to have power outages in N.Ireland but more secure now we are interconnected to Scotland
arabella Ella: ah
arabella Ella: and the Scots have cheap gas right?
Eliza Madrigal: For a few years in a row we had either light hurricanes or strong tropical storms (in Miami) which would knock out power for days at a time
Mickorod Renard: all that porridge they eat
Zen Arado: it's running out Ara
Zen Arado: :)
arabella Ella: we have amongst the most expensive electricity bills in the world ... and yet we get power cuts ... feels like time travel back to middle ages
Wol Euler: well, all fossil fuels are running out, if comes to that.
Eliza Madrigal: after the first day people seem to settle in and make parties... hanging out outside and talking, etc... running on missions for ice, etc... back to village life
Agatha Macbeth: Or the dark Ages
arabella Ella giggles
Eliza Madrigal: :)
arabella Ella: very dark Agatha it was scarey driving in pitch darkness in places where the clubs and bars are usually full of life
Hokon Cazalet: o.O
Mickorod Renard: as u have so much sun,,I am supprised there isnt more use of it Ara
Agatha Macbeth: Erk
Zen Arado: if it costs more money it doesn't get done
arabella Ella: yes we have lots of sun and wind ... but seems like politicians take for ever and a day to take sensible decisions
Eliza Madrigal: that's their job
arabella Ella: altho now they are setting up solar panels on all government buildings
Eliza Madrigal: :)
arabella Ella: so maybe ... slowly ...
Bleu Oleander: same in arizona
Zen Arado: just keep on with fossil fuels until they run out then panic
arabella Ella: yes
Mickorod Renard: what about Libya,,dont they send u cheap fuel?
arabella Ella: ah ... dont mention that Mick
arabella Ella: we have the problem with Shengen visas there at the moment
arabella Ella: serious problem
Mickorod Renard: oops
arabella Ella: but i think a way to overcome it has been found
Mickorod Renard: how far away is Libya?
arabella Ella: around 300 km more or less
Mickorod Renard: not a huge distance,,u cud pipe it direct, and /or electricity from solar farms in Libyan dessert
arabella Ella: yes i guess so
--BELL--
arabella Ella: after all how much electricity could 400K people use ... not much really when you come to think of it
Mickorod Renard: I suppose everyone is waiting for things to become cheaper, like the technology
Agatha Macbeth: I never had Libyan dessert Mick, is it nice?
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Bleu Oleander: :)
Mickorod Renard: a bit gritty
Wol Euler throws a cushion at Aggers.
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, always brush your teeth afterwards
arabella Ella: we have it regularly here Agatha ... it falls like manna from the sky ... through rain :)
Agatha Macbeth: OW!
Agatha Macbeth grins
arabella Ella: it is forced down our throaths to be honest
arabella Ella: literally
Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
arabella Ella: yea gritty stuff as Mick rightly said
Agatha Macbeth: What would Moses have said?
Wol Euler: "let my people go"?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Mickorod Renard: a basket case
arabella Ella: 'I see red' perhaps
Agatha Macbeth: 'Keep yer Aaron'?
Eliza Madrigal: =P~
Wol Euler: boom boom
Wol Euler: you've been waiting for weeks to use that one, haven't you?
Agatha Macbeth: Uh huh
Wol Euler grins.
Zen Arado: lol
Eliza Madrigal pictures Agatha with a book of lines near the computer
Agatha Macbeth: No, dey is in me 'ed Liz
Mickorod Renard: now then, I had better go home and feed the cats
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Wol Euler: :)
arabella Ella: nite Mick
Wol Euler: goodnight mick, take care
Eliza Madrigal: Okay Mick... nice to see you and happy you are settling in
Eliza Madrigal: I should get going too actually
Agatha Macbeth: TTFN MIck
Mickorod Renard: thankyou,,its good to be back
Eliza Madrigal: Nice to see everyone, missed you all :))
Mickorod Renard: nite nite
Wol Euler: bye eliza, good to see you again
Agatha Macbeth: You too!
Agatha Macbeth: Byeeee
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye
Bleu Oleander: bye everyone :)
Eliza Madrigal waves and smiles thankfully
arabella Ella: bye Eliza
arabella Ella: bye Bleu
Bleu Oleander: take care
Agatha Macbeth: The bells!
Wol Euler: bye bleu
Agatha Macbeth: Cya Bleu
Zen Arado: bye Eliza,
Zen Arado: bye Bleu
Agatha Macbeth: Musical cushions...
Wol Euler: symmetry :)
arabella Ella smiles
arabella Ella: it is contagious this symmetry thing
Agatha Macbeth: How is this symetrical?
arabella Ella: it looks good
Wol Euler: sure it is.
Agatha Macbeth: 4 one side 2 the other
Wol Euler: three empties to your left, three empties to my right
arabella Ella: precisely
Agatha Macbeth: I was thinking of the full ones :)
Wol Euler: ah :)
Agatha Macbeth: Are the cushions half full or half empty?
Wol Euler: is the playgoda half full or half empty?
Wol Euler: snap
Zen Arado: playgoda?
Agatha Macbeth: Ah so
Wol Euler grins
Zen Arado: new one :)
Wol Euler: a very old one!
Agatha Macbeth: I've heard it a lot :)
Zen Arado: ok
Wol Euler: that was one of the contenders for the official name for this place, early on
Zen Arado: so I'm new :)
Agatha Macbeth: I always refer to it as pavilion tho
Zen Arado: was chickng [arameters of Malta power system
Zen Arado: what a nerd I am
arabella Ella: yes?
Hokon Cazalet: :Þ
Agatha Macbeth: Was it painful?
arabella Ella: any info which may be interesting for me?
Wol Euler: :)
Zen Arado: I used to work in that industry
arabella Ella: yes i remember you saying so
Zen Arado: probably not
Zen Arado: http://www.enemalta.com.mt/page.asp?p=926&l=1
Zen Arado: pretty small system
arabella Ella: small population too
Zen Arado: yes big enough for it
arabella Ella: i guess you were checking my answers to your questions too?
arabella Ella: (only joking)
Zen Arado: only interconnected to Gozo
Agatha Macbeth: Zen the anorak strikes again!
arabella Ella: Gozo is the smaller island
Wol Euler: sounds like merchandising for a movie
arabella Ella: part of Malta
Zen Arado: you got them all right Ara :)
Zen Arado: I see
arabella Ella: ah ... may consider Mastermind could make some good money there :)
arabella Ella: one error ... i said coal and seems like we dont use coal any more
arabella Ella: i said coal and oil
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth will be right back.
arabella Ella whispers ... must go now ... nite all!
Hokon Cazalet: bye =)
Wol Euler: goodnight ara, take care
Hokon Cazalet: nice to see you again =)
Yakuzza Lethecus: night wol
Zen Arado: nite Ara,
Agatha Macbeth returns to find Ara gone
Hokon Cazalet: brb, bathroom again
Zen Arado: I missed conversation on phenom earlier because of phone call
Zen Arado: would be ice to have a theme meeting
Zen Arado: nice
Agatha Macbeth: Theme meeting Zen?
Zen Arado: on phenomenology
Agatha Macbeth: Ah right
Agatha Macbeth: Why not?
Zen Arado: otherwise can't find motivation to study it
Zen Arado: Eliza posted a link to a series of videos on Twitter a while ago
Zen Arado: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQFagq_MzZU
Zen Arado: about phenom in case Hokon is interested
Zen Arado: interesting lecture
Hokon Cazalet: back
Zen Arado: to me anyway :)
Hokon Cazalet: cool ty for the link
Agatha Macbeth: I remember the Numbskulls!!!
Agatha Macbeth: YAY!!!
Zen Arado: where did I hear that lately?
Wol Euler: :)
Zen Arado: aH in the lecture :)
Zen Arado: shows how much I remember :)
Zen Arado: you remember desperate dan?
Wol Euler: only as a name, I don't think I followed him
Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes!
Yakuzza Lethecus: onigokko
Hokon Cazalet: lol
Hokon Cazalet: Weeee! ^.^
Yakuzza Lethecus: stop
Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
Agatha Macbeth: onigokko
Hokon Cazalet: Yaaaaayyyyyyyy!
Wol Euler laughs.
Zen Arado: he used to eat cow pie :)
Zen Arado: with a whole cow
Agatha Macbeth: Me too :)
Agatha Macbeth: stop
Zen Arado: horns sticking out :)
Agatha Macbeth: You or the cow?
Agatha Macbeth: (Moooo)
Zen Arado: careful :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: sleep well everyone :)
Hokon Cazalet: goodnight yakuzza =)
Zen Arado: nite Yaku
Agatha Macbeth: Schlaf gut Yaku :)
Wol Euler: bye yaku
--BELL--
Zen Arado: we were talking about doing an art project earlier at Eden's meeting
Agatha Macbeth: Whoa
Zen Arado: can you do sculpties Wol?
Wol Euler: no
Agatha Macbeth: (She's asleep)
Zen Arado: :)
Wol Euler: not ones that look like acceptable anyway
Agatha Macbeth: What are sculpties?
Wol Euler: a particular kind of prim, freeform shapes
Agatha Macbeth: Hm
Wol Euler: your boots, for example, are largely made of sculpties
Zen Arado: I went to a lecture once but the girl lost me after 5 mins
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, wow
Zen Arado: you have to buy a program to start
Agatha Macbeth: Typical
Wol Euler: well, there are frree alternatives
Zen Arado: oh?
Wol Euler: the wiki page on sculpties has a list
Zen Arado: ok might check that
Zen Arado: thannks for info
Wol Euler: yw
Zen Arado: just need some time now
Wol Euler: :)
Zen Arado: and a lot of patience
Agatha Macbeth: No such thing as time Zen :0
Wol Euler: definitely the lattter
Wol Euler: they are very tricky
Zen Arado: time past, time future.
Zen Arado: are all contained in....forget the rest
Wol Euler: jam yesterday and jam tomorrow
Agatha Macbeth: 'Where are all times past gone?'
Zen Arado: time present?
Zen Arado: it was always now as Eckhart Tolle says
Agatha Macbeth: Well he would
Zen Arado: or he wouldn't be able to sell his book
Zen Arado: :)
Wol Euler: :)
Hokon Cazalet: hehe
Zen Arado: it is true though
Zen Arado: neither past or future exist
Zen Arado: only in memories ot projections
Hokon Cazalet: brb people came in
Zen Arado: how did your guardian session go Aga?
Agatha Macbeth: Well for the most part ok
Agatha Macbeth: Not too terrifying
Zen Arado: you posted the log ok?
Agatha Macbeth: Yep
Wol Euler readies a cushion just in case
Agatha Macbeth: With a little help from a friend :)
--BELL--
Wol Euler grins.
Zen Arado: good
Agatha Macbeth: It was a long session too, two hours
Agatha Macbeth: with just the four of us
Zen Arado: I'm lucky if anyone turns up :)
Agatha Macbeth: And then stev pointed me to the PaB chronicles
Agatha Macbeth: Steve even
Agatha Macbeth: And was reading them till 6am!!
Zen Arado: hefty tomes
Zen Arado: full of wisdom
Agatha Macbeth: I went to bed in broad daylight
Agatha Macbeth: And got up again at noon
Agatha Macbeth: Then edited my log...
Wol Euler: :)
Agatha Macbeth: lost track of time
Agatha Macbeth: and missed the bloody Guardian session
Agatha Macbeth: :(
Agatha Macbeth: Which reminds me, I need to read up what happened
Zen Arado: we talked about art proect near the end
Zen Arado: project
Agatha Macbeth: Is that Eden's thing?
Zen Arado: Bleu started it
Agatha Macbeth: Oh Bleu, right
Agatha Macbeth: I must find out more about it
Zen Arado: just thinking atm
Zen Arado: just ideas
Agatha Macbeth: I hear the cogs....
Zen Arado: need oiled...
Zen Arado: mine anyway
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Thou sayest it ;-)
Zen Arado: hmmm got an invite to an OU poetry reading
Agatha Macbeth: ooh, sounds good!
Zen Arado: think I'll go
Zen Arado: want a TP ?
Agatha Macbeth: It's on now then?
Zen Arado: it says now
Agatha Macbeth: Aha
Agatha Macbeth: Nite Zen
Zen Arado: nite all
Wol Euler: goodnight zen, take care
Wol Euler: I should get to bed, I'm fading fast
Zen Arado: IM me if you decide you want to come
Agatha Macbeth: Sweet dreams Wol :))
Zen Arado: bye
Wol Euler: goodngiht aggers, take care
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Hokon, sorry to leave you all alone....
Wol Euler: bye hokon, when you wake up ;.)