2010.03.15 13:00 - Brains, Babies, and the Nature of Onigokko

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza, filling in for Mickorod. 

    The comments are by Eliza Madrigal.

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Qt
    Qt Core: hi eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Mick is having internet issues since moving into his new home :)
    Qt Core: many have internet issues without even moving ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe, true
    Eliza Madrigal: How is everything with you?
    Qt Core: not a great day at work but a wonderful weather
    Eliza Madrigal: well that compensates a little I guess. The weather here is absolutely stunning today too... low 70s and breeze... clear blue blue skies...
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Cal :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Ag :))
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Liz, QT :)
    Qt Core: here we had low 60 and clear sky, with beautiful snow white mountains on the background
    Qt Core: hi agatha, calvino
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, got me there ;-D

    Moments before, Agatha offered to fill in a guardian session for the first time ...

    Agatha Macbeth: I was just reading your email Liz thanks!
    Eliza Madrigal: Thank You! Are you sure... 2 AM?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yep
    Calvino Rabeni: Hello Eliza, agatha QT
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm up anyways
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Cal
    Eliza Madrigal: :) wow
    Eliza Madrigal: I think, that because you have posted on the wiki before, it shouldn't be much trouble... a tip would be to try not to hit save until you're sure the title and date are right
    Eliza Madrigal: otherwies the page will need to be moved. I should add that to the hosting email :)))
    Agatha Macbeth: Ok will do
    Eliza Madrigal makes note
    Agatha Macbeth does too
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Not so bad, usually it would be 3am!!!
    Eliza Madrigal: Is it that you sleep in, or that you sleep little?
    Agatha Macbeth: Well, next day's Sunday and i don't rise early anyhow ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Eliza Madrigal: sleepy sunday
    Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
    Agatha Macbeth: Sometimes I haven't gone to bed till 6am on a Saturday (Sunday)
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh My
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm a bit of a night bird :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Its been a long time since I did that, and usually not by choice... hehe
    Agatha Macbeth grins
    Qt Core: only good books can have me do something like that ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Well yes...
    Agatha Macbeth: And the net, and DVDs :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice, Qt. What was the last book that kept you up all night?
    Agatha Macbeth: And did it have pictures? :))
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
    Qt Core: Pyramids by Pratchett i think ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Eliza Madrigal: an absorbed into another world.... from SL to...
    Agatha Macbeth: To....?
    Eliza Madrigal: well anywhere :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Oz?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Yaku :)
    Eliza Madrigal: works for me. haha
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Ya :)
    Qt Core: hi yaku

    Eliza Madrigal: Cal that was an interesting session last night... skimmed a bit of it
    Agatha Macbeth: Missed that...
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes a couple of visitors where here who had a lot ot offer
    Calvino Rabeni: it was a good session
    Eliza Madrigal: philosophical and stretchy, but still light...
    Eliza Madrigal: about.... the brain.....
    Eliza Madrigal: sort of
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Erk
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Calvino Rabeni: beyond the brain - i think the session if it could speak would agree, the brain takes too much of the credit :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Still rezzing Ya?
    Agatha Macbeth nods @ Cal
    Eliza Madrigal: indeed
    Qt Core: (haven't read the log yet) so what is there beyond the brain ?
    Eliza Madrigal: So how would you sum it up Cal?
    Calvino Rabeni: the world, evolution
    Eliza Madrigal: systems .. patterns... ?
    Calvino Rabeni: THe brain is like the perfect dance parner, responsive to the evolving conditions of the dance of life, but not the master and commander ofthe universe
    Eliza Madrigal: what if you have a clumsy one? :)
    Calvino Rabeni: (my capsule summary of th session)
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice, thanks
    Calvino Rabeni: Then you are dead :)
    Eliza Madrigal: not quite dead yet
    Qt Core: maybe even a parasite of the universe ?
    Agatha Macbeth: (Thought she meant me)
    Calvino Rabeni: BUt if you are not, then you have a perfectly fine one :)
    Eliza Madrigal: the brain as parasite, Qt?
    Qt Core: (surely a dancer is a better image)

    Calvino Rabeni: Perhaps it is an aesthetic choice, whether you want to be a parasite, symbiote, epicure, host, etc.
    Eliza Madrigal has heard it said that life is the dancer and we are the dance... maybe that's still solipsistic...
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe
    Agatha Macbeth: I like to think of it as the conducter of the orchestra
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, yes, nice
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Fox Monacular: hello all
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Fox :))
    Agatha Macbeth: Has Yaku fallen asleep again?
    Qt Core: or the thought juggler
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Fox
    Qt Core: hi Fox
    Eliza Madrigal: I wondered if Ya had gotten an IM along the way... or hm... yes maybe a nap
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Wel it does happen...
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Agatha Macbeth: Yakuzzzzzzzzzzzzzza
    Eliza Madrigal giggles and smiles at Ya
    Eliza Madrigal: Fox, how are you settling? How is the neighbor?
    Fox Monacular: hehe:), I'm actually in Montreal right now
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, still? hehe
    Fox Monacular: by husband is finishing thesis, and i just can't take it anymore :)))
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww
    Fox Monacular: and aslo i have a lot of work to do here, while grandmas take turns playing with baby
    Eliza Madrigal: fight or flight... you chose flight :)
    Fox Monacular: hehe
    Agatha Macbeth: Very wise
    Fox Monacular: no, no fight, just it's better when nobody gets too stressed out
    Fox Monacular: and besides he'll work faster without our presence
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, agreed... if you have a family and support system then great to take advantage
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth nods and smiles
    Fox Monacular: yes, exactly
    Fox Monacular: after an isolated month in boston i feel like i'm on vacation here
    Eliza Madrigal: wow, lovely... and nothing better for your baby than to be doted on by grammas :)
    Fox Monacular: :) so true
    Fox Monacular: nothing better for grammas too
    Qt Core: and wonder why they didn't spoiled you as much ;-)
    Fox Monacular: seriosly... why?
    Fox Monacular: :)
    Fox Monacular: 1st baby of the generation... grandmas are fighting over her:)
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Wonderful :))
    Qt Core: one of my friends in your position almost wanted to make the grandparents to bid for the child ;-)
    Fox Monacular: hahaha
    Fox Monacular: good idea
    Eliza Madrigal: I remember once, my oldest daughter took all the chairs from her gran-memere's house, and made everyone sit in a train so she could put on a show... I couldn't believe they all did it...
    Fox Monacular: i could use some of that money
    Agatha Macbeth: Grandparents are like that
    Fox Monacular: wow
    Eliza Madrigal: middle of thanksgiving... but yes she knew she had them... talk about a conductor :)
    Fox Monacular: yes, in our family baby is definitely a conductor too

    Fox Monacular: it's interesitng how they realize early exactly how to manipulate each family member
    Eliza Madrigal: so sweet.. sigh... nice to snuggle babies :)
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, true
    Fox Monacular: i came home yesterday, and she didn't see me... she was 'crying' for the grandpa to notice her... but what a different cry! would never do the same with me:)
    Agatha Macbeth: Heehee
    Eliza Madrigal: notcing different cries...
    Fox Monacular: yes, very attuned to others
    Qt Core: they have the power and aren't afraid to use it
    Eliza Madrigal wonders what signals she reads
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh Qt
    Fox Monacular: a lot of mirroring too... intonations... gestures... she's like a mix of all of our behaviors
    Eliza Madrigal: fascinating... like noticing that they look like a diff famly member depending on whose lap they are on :))

    We fall quiet for a bit...

    Eliza Madrigal notices Ya snuck onto a cushion
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Qt Core: or crashed on it ?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, he woke up ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, not quite on the top of my game today... was trying to weave together Cal's life and brain session with mirror nerurons and trains...
    Eliza Madrigal: nada connecting. :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Leaves on the line
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Ari :)
    Arisia Vita: Hi all
    Fox Monacular: what brain session?
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Arisia
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, i was still jealous about you cal :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i also read ur session log :D
    Eliza Madrigal: http://playasbeing.wik.is/index.php?...22The_Brain%22
    Eliza Madrigal: a long session though... will take a bit of time, but interesting
    Fox Monacular: thanks

    Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s interesting it´s also the second time for me that somebody is mentioning thomas metzinger
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and the ego tunnel
    Eliza Madrigal: he does seem to be on everyone's brain lately ;-)
    Fox Monacular: synchronicity... my boss just old me he's going to a conference with metzinger
    Eliza Madrigal: !
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey bleu
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and arisia
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Bleu
    Qt Core: hi Bleu
    Bleu Oleander: Hi, visiting with some friends in rl
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu :) We just mentioned metziner (Bleu passed along a M site the other day)
    Fox Monacular: hi Bleu
    Bleu Oleander: great!
    Eliza Madrigal waves to Bleu's friends in rl
    Bleu Oleander: wave back!
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Bleu Oleander: trying to convert!!

    Calvino Rabeni: @eliza, that weaving process - I find sometimes the brain state known as "sleep" is useful :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Bleu's friends
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehehehe Cal
    Bleu Oleander: be on good behavior!
    Eliza Madrigal: yes I thought of that today, but Mick's internet was not working so I was lured here.... hehehe by forces unknown to me
    Agatha Macbeth: We always are :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) good answer to both lines, Ag
    Agatha Macbeth grins
    Eliza Madrigal wonders if Bleu was warning us not to play her favorite song
    Agatha Macbeth: Multi-purpose answer
    Bleu Oleander: don't you dare
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehhee
    Agatha Macbeth: What's that?
    Agatha Macbeth: Rhapsody in Bleu?

    Bleu Oleander: onigokko
    Yakuzza Lethecus: that´s only supposed to happen in my session regularly
    Yakuzza Lethecus: :D
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh hell
    Eliza Madrigal didn't do it!
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Eliza Madrigal: stop
    Eliza Madrigal: Ya is dangerous with those lemmings, too
    Fox Monacular: uh-oh yakuzza...
    Agatha Macbeth: Right....
    Bleu Oleander: i'm out of here!
    Agatha Macbeth: onigokko
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bleu, Nice to see you!
    Agatha Macbeth: Have fun Bleu
    Agatha Macbeth: stop
    Bleu Oleander: bye :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: take care bleu :)
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Fox Monacular: hehehe that was cool
    Fox Monacular: i missed it in these 2 months)
    Agatha Macbeth: I'll bet
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Navi Bert
    Fox Monacular: i tried it in rl... but nobody followed
    Agatha Macbeth: It's blue Bert!
    Qt Core: hi Bert
    Eliza Madrigal: hahaah Fox. At the wedding? giggles... can be the new hokey pokey
    Bertram Jacobus: hello all ... :-)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey bert :)
    Fox Monacular: haha, good idea, Eliza
    Fox Monacular: but no, actually nobody danced
    Agatha Macbeth: The Navi are invading!

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Fay, Welcome to Play as Being :)
    Fay Yedmore: hi all thanks for the welcome
    Eliza Madrigal: dazzling avatars :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Blue is the colour
    Eliza Madrigal: Fay, has Bertram told you about our group, and that we record our sessions?
    Fay Yedmore: a bit
    Fay Yedmore: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: If you'd like not to be included, we can edit the log, so just let us know :)
    Fay Yedmore: its ok
    Eliza Madrigal: Great, thanks
    Fay Yedmore: yw
    Eliza Madrigal: I guess the simplest way to talk about the group in the beginning is that we generally discuss topics around the nature of reality, and engage in explorations...
    Eliza Madrigal: like the pause you entered in during :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: good night everyone
    Eliza Madrigal: Nite Ya :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Cya Yaku schlaf gut
    Eliza Madrigal: today we've talked about brains and babies and hm... dancing a bit
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth nods and grins
    Agatha Macbeth: Never a dull moment really

    Agatha Macbeth: Did we ever work out what 'reality' was by the way?
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehehe
    Eliza Madrigal: Want to give it a stab?
    Agatha Macbeth: Errrrr.......nnnnnnnnnnnno
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Eliza Madrigal grins
    Agatha Macbeth: 42?
    Eliza Madrigal: I've been working with the 'nature of' phrase lately... like.... 'nature of play'
    Agatha Macbeth: Mm?
    Eliza Madrigal: like what is it that we feel when we
    Eliza Madrigal: onigokko
    Eliza Madrigal: stop
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, the nature of onigokko
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Bertram Jacobus: lool
    Bertram Jacobus: onigokko
    Eliza Madrigal thinks Agatha is a master log title- er
    Eliza Madrigal: stop
    Agatha Macbeth: You think?
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Agatha Macbeth: Meep Meep ;P :p:P :p :P
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, cute!
    Eliza Madrigal looks over at Fox and wonders what she thought of my taking her friend's line and naming a log "Fox is dragging me into weird stuff"
    Agatha Macbeth: Sure am :))
    Fox Monacular: he
    Calvino Rabeni: Aga knows better than anyone - reality = T42
    Eliza Madrigal thinks that might be what Fay is thinking about what Bert has done
    Agatha Macbeth: and 24T?
    Fox Monacular: it's actually something i hear a lot in RL
    Eliza Madrigal: really?
    Eliza Madrigal: hah
    Agatha Macbeth: What has he done?
    Fox Monacular: i mean... dream lab... you know
    Eliza Madrigal: dragged Fay into something weird, Ag :)
    Fox Monacular: hehe:)
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, yes.. hehe
    Agatha Macbeth: (Just don't mention 'hypogeum')
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Bertram Jacobus is happy not to understand 2a single word" of all that :-))
    Bertram Jacobus: "a single word"
    Fay Yedmore thinks the same indeed
    Agatha Macbeth: Er versteht nicht mein Gott!!!!
    Eliza Madrigal: hahaha... got ya covered
    Agatha Macbeth holds her hands up

    Our visitor jumps right in...  

    Fay Yedmore: onigokko
    Eliza Madrigal: hahahaha
    Eliza Madrigal: Fay fits right in ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Sure does!
    Fox Monacular: whoa.... i have sound off... just looked away from screen, and say my avatar dancing...
    Fay Yedmore: stop
    Fox Monacular: like an out-of-body experience
    Agatha Macbeth: Or out-of-brain experience
    Eliza Madrigal: silent onigokko
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
    Fox Monacular: i'm in a coffee shop
    Fay Yedmore: lucky dancing not bring us babys then winks
    Agatha Macbeth: Not always ;-)
    Qt Core: time to go, bye all
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Qt :)
    Bertram Jacobus: bye qt ...
    Agatha Macbeth: Ciao QT
    Fox Monacular: take care Qt
    Fay Yedmore: bye bye qt
    Qt Core: have fun ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks, you too :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Actually, I have to pull myself away also...
    Agatha Macbeth: Don't we always?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, think I'll be off too

    Agatha Macbeth: I'll digest your mail Liz :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice to see you all, and hope to see you again Fay.
    Eliza Madrigal smiles... thanks Ag
    Agatha Macbeth: Likewise :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm sure Steve will find you, too :))
    Fox Monacular: bye Eliza and Agatha, good to see you
    Eliza Madrigal: Always nice to see you Fox, and By Cal, Ari, Bert...
    Eliza Madrigal waves


    Bertram Jacobus: its strange ... with winter/summer time ... always times change here ... thought meeting had just begun ...
    Fox Monacular: yes, I think time changes at different days in North america and Europe
    Bertram Jacobus: yes. exactly. so it must be
    Fay Yedmore: bye bye to all i will leave now with bert
    Bertram Jacobus: okay ... so i say bye, may all beings be happy please and ty all ! +wave* ...
    arabella Ella: Hiya
    Bertram Jacobus: just leaving - sry ara - summer - winter time confusions i had too ... ;-)
    arabella Ella: me too!
    arabella Ella: cant get used to time difference now
    arabella Ella: bye Bert!
    Fox Monacular: hi ara
    Fox Monacular: internet sooo slow here..
    arabella Ella: Hiya Fox havent seen you in ages ...I got lag too
    arabella Ella: some of my chat has not appeared and will now be out of synch
    arabella Ella: How are you Calvino?
    arabella Ella: seems like Calvino is afk :)
    arabella Ella whispers bye to Calvino :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni looks around at an empty pavilion - hmm, where did everyone go :)

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