2010.08.25 07:00 - August Dream Circle II

The Guardian for this meeting was Gaya Ethaniel. The comments are by Gaya Ethaniel.

SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Lucinda! Hi Gaya :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Lucinda and Sharon :)
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Sharon, Gaya...
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Maxine :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Maxine
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Maxine :)
Maxine Walden: hi, Gaya, Sophia
Maxine Walden: hi, Lucinda
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Bruce
Maxine Walden: nice to be here. Hi Bruce
Gaya Ethaniel: Just a reminder that the circle will be held once a month again from September, on last Wednesday.
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Bruce :)
Maxine Walden: yes, (have to get my earphones)
SophiaSharon Larnia: ok Gaya :)
Gaya Ethaniel: It's text :)
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, folks.
Maxine Walden: great!
Gaya Ethaniel: First, want to check how many of you have dreams to share?
Lucinda Lavender: Thanks Gaya, I am happy to know this
SophiaSharon Larnia: i do
Maxine Walden: not me this time
Gaya Ethaniel: How about Bruce, Lucinda?
Lucinda Lavender: no dream from me tho I could find one...if needed
Bruce Mowbray: Nope. Is this a dream session?
Gaya Ethaniel: I think three would be a kind of maximum we can do within the hour.
Gaya Ethaniel: Right, ok then I will share one, which makes three :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
Lucinda Lavender: yes Bruce
Maxine Walden: Yes, Bruce, this is a dream session
Bruce Mowbray: mmmm...
Maxine Walden: dream circle
Gaya Ethaniel: Start us off then Bruce ... you can just say 'I pass the stone to Lucinda.' ...
Bruce Mowbray: Well, I thought this was a regular PaB session, so I will pass the stone to Luci.
Maxine Walden: (Bruce may not have anticipated this as other than PaB session
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Lucinda Lavender: I pass the stone to Gaya
Gaya Ethaniel: Sorry, thought you have a dream Lucinda?
Lucinda Lavender: no dream...
Gaya Ethaniel: A family gathering, sitting alongside a few aunts, we are sharing a cod roe which is huge, as big as a large loaf of bread.
Gaya Ethaniel passes the stone to Sharon.
SophiaSharon Larnia: thank you :) Just so you know, I’m not describing this dream here for the ‘funny factor’ and I couldn’t decide if I should to share it for that reason.
SophiaSharon Larnia: I was walking down my driveway to the mailbox. As I was opening the lid to the box, I heard a rustling sound behind me, turned around and it was a deer standing right next to me, For a second, I felt frightened because this is a wild animal that do not usually come that close to humans unless they are rabid. But this one looked calm, and just stared at me. Next thing I know, I was in my house playing with a hamster. This hamster got loose in my house, and when I found it, it was the size of a really large pig (but cute and fluffy). It was talking to me, at least I remember that the hamsters mouth was moving like it was forming words, and I remember thinking that we were talking. But I can’t remember what we talked about.
SophiaSharon Larnia: pass the stone to Maxine :)
Maxine Walden: I pass the stone to Bruce
Bruce Mowbray: I could tell a dream I had a long time ago - -- but should probably pass the stone to Luci.
Gaya Ethaniel: Oh please do share :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Ewan
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes :))
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Ewan.
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Ewan, please take a seat by Maxine.
Ewan Bonham: Hi all..sorry had a hard time logging on..:)
Bruce Mowbray: Does Ewan know this is a dream circle?
Ewan Bonham: Yes, Bruce..
Bruce Mowbray: ok.
Bruce Mowbray: Well, we used to live in a two-storey house in Iowa. My bedroom was on the second floor.
Bruce Mowbray: I would be in bed - and someone would let a bear off of a truck at the corner of our block.
Bruce Mowbray: That was near my piano teacher's house - the corner where her house was and which I had to cross to go for piano lessons.
Bruce Mowbray: The bear would swagger up the side walk and find our house. Then it would enter our house and find its way upstairs to my bedroom and appear in my doorway. At that point I would always wake up - usually screaming.
Bruce Mowbray: I pass the stone to Luci.
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Bertram :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: (hi Betram and Marvie, this is a dream circle)
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Marvie :)
Bertram Jacobus: hi everybody ! :-)
Marvie Forzane: Hi all , nice to meet u ;))
Lucinda Lavender: since we are in the first round and listening to all potential dreams I will pass to Gaya
Gaya Ethaniel: Thanks, I will relate my dream again :)
Gaya Ethaniel: A family gathering, sitting alongside a few aunts, we are sharing a cod roe which is huge, as big as a large loaf of bread.
Gaya Ethaniel: I will IM Marvie re: intro etc.
Bertram Jacobus: oops ? no pab session ? are we allowed only to listen or does that disturb ? sry - did not know that ! ...
Gaya Ethaniel: You're welcome to comment when it's your turn Bertrum :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: Pass to me Gaya?
Bertram Jacobus: and when i don´t know a comment ?
Gaya Ethaniel: Bertrum, you can just pass the stone next to you, to Bruce.

--Bell--

Bertram Jacobus: ah great . ty for the explanation ...
Gaya EthanielGaya Ethaniel passes the stone to Sharon.
SophiaSharon Larnia: Gaya, the dream reminds me of abundance ... A joyful gathering :) ..... passes the stone to Maxine
Maxine Walden: About Gaya's dream, I have the curious sense of linearity, of a long table, long cod roe, not sure if these are pleasant aunts, so maybe a long face as well.:), And while it seems abundant, for me there is a sense of American gothic kind of sparity...and a feeling of a past century, maybe 19th C. just senses as I heard and let the reported dream waft around my mind. I pass the stone to Ewan
Gaya Ethaniel: lol
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Ewan Bonham: TY-- I did not hear the dream.
Marvie Forzane: wishing u fun and se eu next time...bye for now ;))
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Marvie :)
Maxine Walden: bye Marvie
Bertram Jacobus: yeah - sry - we leave again ... thought pab was here - wanted to show marvie, sry ...
Bruce Mowbray: bye, Marvie.
Gaya Ethaniel: Bye Marvie :)
Ewan Bonham: From what i piece together, it sounds like you have entered a special place within you...where there are treasures..
Maxine Walden: bye Bertram
Marvie Forzane: bye Sophie, Maxine and Bruce and Gya ;))
Ewan Bonham: Honored and of great value...
Ewan Bonham: That is about i can say at this point...
Ewan Bonham: Pass to Bruce..
Bruce Mowbray: For me to comment on Gaya's dream?
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes or you can just pass the stone.
Bruce Mowbray: The dream seems like family solidarity -- or perhaps feminine solidarity. The thing they are eating might be a secret that they all share -- or that the elders are passing along to the younger woman.
Bruce Mowbray: I now pass the stone to Luci.
Lucinda Lavender: This fish seems like a source that is shared and potentially of value somehow. I imagine this as being since it is as Large as a Loaf of Bread... the valued daily bread...
Lucinda Lavender: I pass to Gaya
Ethaniel passes the stone to Sharon.
SophiaSharon Larnia: my dream: I was walking down my driveway to the mailbox. As I was opening the lid to the box, I heard a rustling sound behind me, turned around and it was a deer standing right next to me, For a second, I felt frightened because this is a wild animal that do not usually come that close to humans unless they are rabid. But this one looked calm, and just stared at me. Next thing I know, I was in my house playing with a hamster. This hamster got loose in my house, and when I found it, it was the size of a really large pig (but cute and fluffy). It was talking to me, at least I remember that the hamsters mouth was moving like it was forming words, and I remember thinking that we were talking. But I can’t remember what we talked about.
 (sorry so long! and frivilous)
SophiaSharon Larnia: pass the stone to Maxine
Maxine Walden: This dream stirred a lot of interest in me: the deer, maybe wild, feared for that (rabid) but calm and looking at her; and then the theme continues with the hamster, fuzzy (I imagine) and big and talking to her; the sense then, not at all of frivolity, but of growing intimacy from an at-first feared unknown (Wild) part of the self coming to 'talk' and that part becoming more close and communicative. Perhaps the intimacy triggers shyness in the dream reporter who is afraid we will laugh or it is frivolous. Wonderful dream, and very communicative. I pass the stone to Ewan
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: lol
Maxine Walden: :)

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Ewan Bonham: Sharon, the movement in the dream progression is what struck me
Ewan Bonham: Beginning with outside...and traveling inside of your home.
Ewan Bonham: The deer is endearing...and your initial hesitancy was lifted by your own willingness to explore the circumstances further..
Ewan Bonham: Once inside, the hampster was a means of letting something out that was previously caged.
Ewan Bonham: The pig, again, at first daunting...became a fluffy fur ball..
Ewan Bonham: All this progression says to me..
Ewan Bonham: There is nothing to fear in getting to know yourself...
Ewan Bonham: pass to Bruce..
Bruce Mowbray: Am I now to comment on the previous dreams - or to retell my own?
Gaya Ethaniel: Please comment on Sharon's :)
Bruce Mowbray: OK -- I think it's significant that there are animals trying to communicate.
Bruce Mowbray: It is also interesting that there are no humans in the dream -- none to protect the dream figure, none to translate the animals' messages, and none to lead the animals in any way.
Bruce Mowbray: Perhaps there are "big" "animal-like" (natural) impulses going on that the dreamer needs to become aware of. . . but has so far not been able to "hear."
Bruce Mowbray: I app the stone to Luci.
Lucinda Lavender: I think I remember that talking animals are a special thing in the dream suggesting a special stage, a creative one.
Lucinda Lavender: the gathering of animals in this dream as with the aunts strikes me as a theme of gathering. amongst both dreams
Lucinda Lavender: I love the deer eyes...so beautiful in their liquidy brownness. a being of the earth and a gentle one.
Lucinda Lavender: I pass to Gaya
Gaya Ethaniel: I noticed that all the dreams have animals in them.
Gaya Ethaniel: What I feel from Sharon's dream is gentleness. Seeing into a deer's eyes ... from own experience, is like looking into something deep, unknowable.
Gaya Ethaniel: And within her house, she finds again how things are not what they seem to be, the hamster turning into a pig.
Gaya Ethaniel: A soft ...fluffy pig, echoing the gentleness. The dreamer seems to be learning to see more of how things are really.
Gaya Ethaniel passes the stone to Sharon.
SophiaSharon Larnia: thank you :) passes the stone to Maxine

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Maxine Walden: This discussion is so stirring: listening I agree with what everyone is saying, and come to also feel the creativity in both dreams; maybe especially wishing to say, while the second dream seems so fuzzy with deer, hamster, etc, the first dream is very creative with the cod roe (fish eggs I believe) which 'speak's of probably great creativity. And for me when I can contrast the dreams, gain a bit of separation, I can feel more the differences (still spare vs fuzzy in feeling) but also the similarities, creativity, sharing, gathering....very interesting process for me, this discussion
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Maxine Walden: I pass the stone to Ewan
Ewan Bonham: I have commented on your dream Sharon
Ewan Bonham: from the other comments here...
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes please pass the stone to Bruce, if no further comments :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: I believe we haven’t talked about Bruces dream :)
Gaya Ethaniel: To Bruce ...
Bruce Mowbray: so it is now for me to re-tell my dream?
SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
Ewan Bonham: I can agree about the gentle influence of dialogue...and how what might appear to be daunting , can be just child's play once you get to know it...:)
Ewan Bonham: Pass to Bruce..
Bruce Mowbray: ok. Well, this was a dream from early childhood that was repeated several times.
Bruce Mowbray: Someone lets a big bear out of a truck at the corner of our block in Iowa... the same corner where my piano teacher's house was.
Bruce Mowbray: The bear walks down the sidewalk toward our two-storey house, enters the house, finds the stairway, and walks up the stairway to my bedroom.
Bruce Mowbray: This was always terrifying to me -- from the moment the bear was let off the truck, I KNEW it was after me. and I knew that it would inevitably find me.
Bruce Mowbray: There was a feeling of suffocation and terror -- and I always woke up before the bear could reach me in the bed.
Bruce Mowbray: pass stone to Luci.
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Lucinda Lavender: ah..
Lucinda Lavender: was just looking up in my animal medicine cards...about bear.
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Lucinda Lavender: it says personal strength comes from inner knowing...
Lucinda Lavender: go within
Lucinda Lavender: I pass the stone to gaya
Gaya Ethaniel: This sounds like a scary dream for a child ...
Gaya Ethaniel: Perhaps difficult to see the bear other than as of a threat, something to fear.
Gaya Ethaniel: What struck me was that the animal starts its journey from someone else's house not by the dreamer's.
Gaya Ethaniel passes the stone to Sharon.
SophiaSharon Larnia: well, the feeling of fear is palpable. It is a bear, but like a monster, reminded me of fear of something much larger than yourself. It seems that you were grappling with something very large over a period of time.
SophiaSharon Larnia: and yes, that struck me also, the bear being outside coming in.
SophiaSharon Larnia: passes stone to Maxine
Maxine Walden: (I will have to go soon, this likely my last comment). Yes, a childhood nitemare, perhaps when the inner feelings overwhelm the capacity to metabolize the feeling. And the feeling, a bear of a piano teacher, or hard to bare, for the student, or displaced anger...not sure, but also maybe more than one story (two storey house) to tell about this, more than one set of feelings perhaps. Still the repetitive dream suggests it was looking for mastery, for the feelings to be contained. (again I will just go in a moment) Pass the stone to Ewan
Ewan Bonham: bruce, I will also have to leave in a moment..
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Maxine :))
Gaya Ethaniel: Thanks Maxine :) Have a good day.
Ewan Bonham: I look at this from an expanded angle of time...

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Bruce Mowbray: thanks, Maxine and Ewan.
Ewan Bonham: You say you had this dream repeatedly over years...
Ewan Bonham: And you recall it today...no coincidence.
Ewan Bonham: Dreams like this for me are actually calls to the present ...to be completed.
Ewan Bonham: i wonder what would happen if you lived this dream today..
Ewan Bonham: And faced the bear...:)
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Ewan Bonham: Pass to Bruce.
Gaya Ethaniel: I think that's it for today.
Gaya Ethaniel: Thanks everyone :) Hope to see you again next month, last Wednesday.
Bruce Mowbray: OK. Thank you all.
Ewan Bonham: Bye for now...
Lucinda Lavender: thank you gaya
Gaya Ethaniel: Have a good day!
Ewan Bonham: thank you for having this, Luci..
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes!
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Lucinda Lavender: Gaya has done much of the work to communicate to others while we are in the circle mode
Lucinda Lavender: much appreciated:)
Bruce Mowbray: Appreciate your work, Luci and Gaya.
SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye for now all :)
Bruce Mowbray: Off to walk my dog now - whose name is "Bear," btw!
SophiaSharon Larnia: haha Bruce! very nice
Lucinda Lavender: it is a way to take a dream, connect it to others and listen to it

From last summer, a deer that walked up to us to say hello ... :) Wouldn't go, so had to leave it behind.