The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth.

Yakuzza Lethecus: hi aga
Agatha Macbeth: Hello again yaku :)
Agatha Macbeth: How did you say you got your tag purple again?

Maybe Yaku fell asleep again, as he appeared to miss this question...

Agatha Macbeth: Hiya Berti :)
Bertram Jacobus: hy aggers and yaku :-)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hi bert
Agatha Macbeth: How's bert?

--BELL--(1300)

Agatha Macbeth: And hello Adoro
Bertram Jacobus: bert is quite ok - ty - and how are the others ? ;-)
Bertram Jacobus: hello adoro :-)
adoro Rhapsody: hi agatha
adoro Rhapsody: hello bert
Agatha Macbeth: All the better for seeing you dear :)
adoro Rhapsody: i am fine here
Bertram Jacobus: hehe - miss charming ? ... ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: Anybody have any good topics tonite?
adoro Rhapsody: addiction to phiosophy ?
Agatha Macbeth: Addiction?
adoro Rhapsody: yes i seem to be addicted to this meetings
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, I thought you meant philosophy in general...
adoro Rhapsody: no just this way of communicating here
Agatha Macbeth nods
adoro Rhapsody: it seems i want it every day
Bertram Jacobus: hehe - i must admit, that i´m really not for philosophy here (!) ... ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: It is an interesting thing yes
adoro Rhapsody: it has a special setting
Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes, indeed
Bertram Jacobus: yes. to that i agree :-9
Agatha Macbeth: The birds and the fountain and everything
adoro Rhapsody: sure
adoro Rhapsody: how long do you ppl this already ?
Agatha Macbeth: In fact, it is a perfect setting for what it is
Agatha Macbeth: Well in my case almost a year now
adoro Rhapsody: me just a few weeks
Bertram Jacobus: similar here i guess
adoro Rhapsody: and it does not disturb that it is recorded
Agatha Macbeth: No, not at all
adoro Rhapsody: because we r all searching for the essence of some issues
Agatha Macbeth: It can always be edited later after all...;-)
adoro Rhapsody: hi qt
Qt Core: Hi all
Agatha Macbeth: 'Sera Qt
Bertram Jacobus: hey qt :-)
adoro Rhapsody: bona sera
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey qt
Qt Core: 'sera
Agatha Macbeth: Do you have any worries about the recording then Adoro?
adoro Rhapsody: no not at all
Agatha Macbeth: ah, good :)
Agatha Macbeth: I just wondered, since you mentioned it
adoro Rhapsody: its unique kind of publication
Agatha Macbeth: Oh right, I understand
Agatha Macbeth: Well actually it isn't unique
adoro Rhapsody: ok
Agatha Macbeth: some of the stuff at Kira Café is also recorded
adoro Rhapsody: for me als a newcomer it seeem to be unique
Agatha Macbeth: As for unique in SL, that i am not sure about
Agatha Macbeth: But I don't know of anywhere else that does it
adoro Rhapsody: ok, now i wanna hear the others and keep my mouth shut
Bertram Jacobus: hey ara ! ... :-)
Agatha Macbeth: Evening Ara :)
adoro Rhapsody: hi ara
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey ara
arabella Ella: good evening everyone!
Qt Core: Hi Ara
Agatha Macbeth: You seem Just So Lovely Ara  (Noting her group tag)
Agatha Macbeth: :p
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, she does :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: lol
Agatha Macbeth: Is that a group?
arabella Ella: oh yes Ags glad you like the tag
arabella Ella: you know how it is when you visit places while exploring and they ask you to join their groups and i liked this tag so i kept it
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, thought so
Agatha Macbeth: I never join update groups any more
Agatha Macbeth: got out of the habit long ago

Eliza twirls in

Agatha Macbeth: Hello again birthday girl :))
arabella Ella: generally i join and remove them once i leave their sim  (Me too!)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Everyone :) Thank you Agatha
adoro Rhapsody: hi eliza
Qt Core: birthday girl today on the 16 ?
adoro Rhapsody: i admire your dress eliza
Eliza Madrigal: yes , and thanks adoro:)
Agatha Macbeth: And still eating cake I see...
adoro Rhapsody: admire
Eliza Madrigal: haha, am I?
Qt Core: me too ;-)
Qt Core: both birthday and cake i mean
Eliza Madrigal: haha, so I am
arabella Ella: happy birthday Eliza!
Eliza Madrigal: Thank you Ara, nice to see you :)
Agatha Macbeth: Was it a biggie today then Liz?
adoro Rhapsody: sweet sixteen ?

--BELL--(1315)

Eliza Madrigal: yes, that's it
Agatha Macbeth: I heard a rumour it was one of those ending in 0
Bertram Jacobus: hello eliza again and again a happy birthday ! ;-)
Eliza Madrigal: Thank you :) and yes... its a 0
Agatha Macbeth smiles
Bertram Jacobus: and sry adoro - a bit very late this reaction from me to your question from some minutes before - but pab begab in april 2008 - i just looked it up now ... :-)
arabella Ella: Ags how do you know so much LOL
Bertram Jacobus: and hello arch :-)
adoro Rhapsody: hi arch
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Arch
Yakuzza Lethecus: hi arch
Agatha Macbeth: A little bird twittered [grin]
Qt Core: hi arch, bert
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Archie
Eliza Madrigal: Yes, PaB began on April Fools Day!
arabella Ella: maybe as GoC you are in a priveleged position too?
adoro Rhapsody: arch angel on wings
Agatha Macbeth: How apt eh?
arabella Ella: Hiya arch
Archmage Atlantis: Hello
Eliza Madrigal: hehe, perfect Agatha
Bertram Jacobus: fools day ? don´t know that (?) ... :-)
Eliza Madrigal: it is all a big trick
arabella Ella likes birds tweeting
Eliza Madrigal: tricking us awake
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: How are you Arch?
Eliza Madrigal: brb
Agatha Macbeth: Be-winged I see
Archmage Atlantis: What is a big trick, Ara?.......SL, RL, FL ??.........I am dangerous Agatha
Agatha Macbeth puts up a warning sign
Archmage Atlantis: No afraid of questions at the moment
Bertram Jacobus: hi morgano
Agatha Macbeth: Ok, I won't ask any...
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Morg
arabella Ella: i did not say that someone else did arch
adoro Rhapsody: hi morgana
Agatha Macbeth: Thought i saw someone sprint by
Qt Core: hi morgano
arabella Ella: but i think what they meant was that PAB started on 1 April which is All Fools Day
morgano Bravin: Hello everyone
arabella Ella: Hiya morgano
morgano Bravin: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hello morgano
Bertram Jacobus: ah ! ty ara for letting me understand ... :-)
adoro Rhapsody: fata morgano
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, fools answer all questions
Bertram Jacobus: and hello eden again ... :-)
Agatha Macbeth: Fools ask them too ;-)
adoro Rhapsody: hi eden
Yakuzza Lethecus: eden :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Eden :) (back)
Agatha Macbeth: Hello again Edie
morgano Bravin: hello eden
Eden Haiku: Hello everyone :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: friday night is the weekly foolish session :)
arabella Ella: are you calling me a fool Arch for answering your question?
Agatha Macbeth: Ah yes
Agatha Macbeth: onigokko

Like a fool, I had taken it off!

Eliza Madrigal: Yes, PaB began on April 1, 2008. I was reading the first blog post earlier actually: PaB history: http://playasbeing.wordpress.com/hin...ying-as-being/
Agatha Macbeth: stop
Yakuzza Lethecus: and monday night :)
adoro Rhapsody: crazy monday

Take two

Agatha Macbeth: onigokko
adoro Rhapsody: its ridiculous
Eliza Madrigal: uh oh... silliness is like a virus
Agatha Macbeth: Birthday onigokko
Eliza Madrigal: :))
adoro Rhapsody: happy onigokko !!!
Yakuzza Lethecus: i hope nobody steals our pillows now
Eden Haiku: Yes, you missed that this morning!
Bertram Jacobus: but being able to laugh - especially about the own sillyness ... important i think -
Eliza Madrigal is getting dizzy.... onigokko reacting with champagne
Eden Haiku: Want some more cake guys? For Eliza's birthday?
Agatha Macbeth grins
adoro Rhapsody: its so relativating
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes please :)
Agatha Macbeth: stop
adoro Rhapsody: nothing else matters
Eliza Madrigal: whew
Agatha Macbeth: There ya go
Eden Haiku: Relativating yes Adoro, beautiful new word!
Bertram Jacobus: sweet silence ... ;o)
adoro Rhapsody: he it just happend
Archmage Atlantis: A pleasant b-day to you Eliza, SL or FL?
Bertram Jacobus: fl
Eden Haiku: Just click on it and touch to get a slice :)
Agatha Macbeth: RL
Bertram Jacobus: fl :-p
Archmage Atlantis: sees
Eliza Madrigal: yes, I'm 40 today Arch :)
Bertram Jacobus: rl is everywhere ... :-p
Eliza Madrigal: And it is a wonderful birthday actually... two parties already
Agatha Macbeth: When life begins
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Archmage Atlantis: Youngster, smile
morgano Bravin: happy birthday Eliza
Eliza Madrigal smiles too
Eliza Madrigal: yes, Eden says I'm officially a grown up today
Eliza Madrigal: but I feel like a newborn
Eden Haiku: Do you have great plans for birthday dinner? Monday is not easy that way though...
Bertram Jacobus: hy cal :-)
Archmage Atlantis: I missed the date I grew up.......oh f....
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Calvino
Agatha Macbeth grins @ Arch
adoro Rhapsody: hi cal join the b-party
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, no the lama of my temple is in town and teaching, so that will be a gift :)
Bertram Jacobus: whaow
Eden Haiku: And it seems it is going to be Eliza's year of enlightenment. I thought she was already ;))))
Bertram Jacobus: how cool eliza ! :-)
Agatha Macbeth always confuses lamas with llamas
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, llamas are gifted

--BELL--(1330)

Eliza Madrigal: Oh My... Eden is going to jump out of the cake!
adoro Rhapsody: peace of cake
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Calvino Rabeni: Hello and happy birthday - is anyone inside the cake?
Agatha Macbeth: The one-L lama, He's a priest. The two-L llama, He's a beast. And I would bet A silk pajama There isn't any Three-L lllama.
Archmage Atlantis: You think Aggie.....really
Agatha Macbeth: Ogden Nash
Eliza Madrigal: funny that my lama actually has a picture of himself with a llama no his facebook page :) funny guy
Eliza Madrigal: *on=no
Agatha Macbeth: But no 3L lllama?
Eden Haiku: remembers a lama who looked like a llama :)))
Eliza Madrigal: not yet
Eliza Madrigal: haha
Agatha Macbeth wonders what a 3L lllama would look like
Archmage Atlantis: Haven't met her yet, so no 3 lllama for me
Archmage Atlantis: Ah
Eden Haiku: Lllama is when you reach 3rd dan I guess :))
Agatha Macbeth: Could be a mammal with spiritual tendancies
Archmage Atlantis: A creature of myth
Eden Haiku: laughs at Aga's remark
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Eden Haiku: I think you are the most spiritual Being Agathita :))
Archmage Atlantis: Lately, I just turn at the rabbit hole without seeing it
Agatha Macbeth ponders
Eliza Madrigal: agrees with Eden
Agatha Macbeth: 'Follow the white rabbit'?
Eden Haiku: "In the spirit of fun in the fun of spirit" it said at a bar I used to go ;))
Archmage Atlantis: Lately, he has been a dwarf belgian bunny
Eliza Madrigal: oh my... just saw what you named the log Eden! eek ((( )))
Agatha Macbeth watches Morgano swallowing cake
Eden Haiku: wondering how it looks like
Archmage Atlantis: with cure flooply ears
Eden Haiku: I know, but no pressure Eliza, I think you are already there. No worries!
Eden Haiku: Already enlightened (((Eliza)))))
arabella Ella: what did you name the log then Eliza?
Agatha Macbeth: Aww, sweet
Agatha Macbeth: Let's hope it's true :p
Eliza Madrigal: Eden gives me the present of seeing me at the end
Eden Haiku: I called it 'The Year of Her Enlightenment" Ara
morgano Bravin: yummy cake
Eliza Madrigal: dessert before dinner :)
Agatha Macbeth: The dessert song
Archmage Atlantis: I think, you may mean, Agie, lets hop it's true
Agatha Macbeth groans
arabella Ella: lovely title Eden
Archmage Atlantis: You started the puns.....I only followed
Eliza Madrigal: Starting at the end to some extend does mean that we see each other as lacking nothing :)
Eliza Madrigal: *extent
Eliza Madrigal: not 'on the way' anywhere
Agatha Macbeth: I need to think about that Liz
Eliza Madrigal: so it is a beautiful blessing :)
Archmage Atlantis: yes, tis, Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Am I too serious today? birthday hazard :)
Agatha Macbeth: Naww
Eden Haiku: Too serious, you ??? No way !
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
Bertram Jacobus: the party pooper title belongs to me plz ;-)
Eliza Madrigal: how so Bert? :) have a topic? heheh
Agatha Macbeth: Do you poop at parties Bert?
Bertram Jacobus: i got it looong time ago from a canadian guy and liked it at once ! :-)
Agatha Macbeth: Ah well, with Canadians anything is possible [grin]
Eliza Madrigal now considers herself honorary Canadian, feeling quite at home in Nova Scotia :)
Eden Haiku: ;)
Agatha Macbeth: Mm, with the rotting logs...
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Agatha Macbeth: And the blueberries
Eden Haiku: And the beautiful mushrooms...
Archmage Atlantis: Still in US, thought I might go to Canada in that old war
arabella Ella: and lions
Eliza Madrigal: Indeed!

--BELL--(1345)

morgano Bravin: the mushrooms sound fun
Eliza Madrigal: rotting logs seem particularly apt to focus on, on one's birthday... hehehe
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe they were magic...
Eden Haiku: A bit confused about old wars and lions in Nova Scotia...
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Eliza Madrigal: and what mustrooms spring from
Eliza Madrigal: mushrooms rather... what an odd typo
Agatha Macbeth: A mustroom in the restroom
Archmage Atlantis: Blackberries, picking with my cop dad, looking for the men who stole rides on the railroad
Eliza Madrigal: The lion is about the moment one 'meets their lion' as in has an experience which 'wakes them up' to live differently
Eliza Madrigal: to 'get real'
Archmage Atlantis: Those were good berries
Agatha Macbeth listens for growling
Eliza Madrigal: the lion's roar unhinge-ing everything....
Eden Haiku: Ah! nice ;)))
Eliza Madrigal: might be an illness for one, or an argument/break up...
Agatha Macbeth: Where does that saying come from?
Archmage Atlantis: I said this once, the cat inside me is a snow panther......the rodent is a badger......the dog is a coyote
Eliza Madrigal: Well it was a story Wol told, in this case... better to let her share it perhaps
Archmage Atlantis: We all channel many
Agatha Macbeth: Hm, when she gets back online :((

I should point out here that Wol had emailed earlier to tell us she had lost ASDL connectivity

Eliza Madrigal: but the symbolism applies easily, yes
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zon
Zon Quar: hi hi hi
Eden Haiku: Saw a nice card with a kitten looking in a mirror: she was a lion in the reflection! Loved it!
Eliza Madrigal: That's wonderful!!
Bertram Jacobus: bye - i´ll leave - ty all for the talk ! *wave* ...
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Zon
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bert :) Be happy
Qt Core: bye Bert
Agatha Macbeth: Night Bert, take care
morgano Bravin: bye bert
arabella Ella: bye Bert good night
adoro Rhapsody: bye bert
Eden Haiku: Bye Bert!
adoro Rhapsody: hi zon
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye bert
arabella Ella: hiya Zon
Eliza Madrigal distributes wishes... everyone gets as many as they like
Bertram Jacobus: ty all again ... :-)
Eden Haiku: Thank you Eliza, opening her arms to receive all Eliza's blessings!
Agatha Macbeth: You'll need long arms :)
Eliza Madrigal: :::beams:::: Let's fix the world... what do we wish...
Eden Haiku: Yes...
Archmage Atlantis: agree. aggers
Zon Quar: happy birthady eliza
Eliza Madrigal: ty Zon :)
Agatha Macbeth: Fix the world before it fixes us
Eliza Madrigal: hahaha
morgano Bravin: less greed, more compassion
Eliza Madrigal: amen
Agatha Macbeth: Hallelujah
adoro Rhapsody: praise the lord
Calvino Rabeni: less fear, more generosity
Eden Haiku: Clarity and g
Archmage Atlantis: Good song.....let me look it up
Eden Haiku: good will
adoro Rhapsody: let there be love
Eliza Madrigal: yes yes yes
Calvino Rabeni: bark less, wag more
Eliza Madrigal: hahaha, yes
Calvino Rabeni: hiss less, purr more
Agatha Macbeth: Thereby hangs a tail
Eliza Madrigal hums 'let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me...'
Eliza Madrigal: that might be a nursery rhyme... not sure
Archmage Atlantis: I fear, we have only given the dream
Eden Haiku: Oh, what was your great grandmother saying again? Rise and shine?
Agatha Macbeth: Your cake seems to have become unanimated Liz
adoro Rhapsody: lets make our dreams come true
Archmage Atlantis: That it can be real, that we have not given
Calvino Rabeni: ... consume less, savour more ....
Eliza Madrigal: well first we offer a dream, then offer up the dream...
Archmage Atlantis: And that it will not be peaceful......we have given even less of that
adoro Rhapsody: than its tiurn out to be aa nightmare
Eden Haiku: Yes, offering up our dreams is important too :)
adoro Rhapsody: letting go
adoro Rhapsody: on the wings of archmage
Eliza Madrigal: Appreciation ... dreams into awareness
Calvino Rabeni: when opened, the grasping hand turns into ... ?
adoro Rhapsody: tenderness and softy dreams
Eliza Madrigal: ah, rest
morgano Bravin: maybe we are a result of our combined thoughts
Agatha Macbeth: The Dreamtime?
adoro Rhapsody: co creating dreams
Agatha Macbeth plays her dijeridoo
Calvino Rabeni: yes, that time is now
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, the Austro peoples
Zon Quar: waves..
Archmage Atlantis: The first to walk in the dream time
Agatha Macbeth: 'Can you guess what it is yet?'
Eden Haiku: waves to Zon
arabella Ella: bye Zon
Agatha Macbeth: Cya Zon
adoro Rhapsody: bye zon
morgano Bravin: bye zon
adoro Rhapsody: gone in the zone
Yakuzza Lethecus: night everyone
arabella Ella: nite Yaku
Eliza Madrigal: Night Ya, sweet dreams
adoro Rhapsody: night sleep tight
Eden Haiku: Nite Yak!
Qt Core: 'night Yaku
Agatha Macbeth waves to Yaku
morgano Bravin: nite yaku
Eliza Madrigal: what are you playing Ag?
morgano Bravin: is it erogenous?
Eliza Madrigal: "digeridoo songs for peace"?
Eliza Madrigal: heheh
Eden Haiku: laughs at @Adoro > Zon gone in the zone...>
Agatha Macbeth: Erogenous?
adoro Rhapsody: erogenius

--BELL--(1400)

morgano Bravin: whatever you were playin with that we had to guess
Agatha Macbeth: Thought I missed something...
arabella Ella: LOL
morgano Bravin: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks again for the lovely wishes, and wishes and wishes....
Agatha Macbeth: :)
morgano Bravin: thankyou eliza..lovely
Eliza Madrigal: Bye for now (((( )))))

As Eliza leaves, the conversation, almost unnoticed, takes on a new turn

Archmage Atlantis: When I was new here, in SL......yes I know the date is old
arabella Ella: bye Eliza
Agatha Macbeth: Take care
adoro Rhapsody: bye eliza
Qt Core: Bye Eliza
arabella Ella: hope u have a great day ahead
Archmage Atlantis: A kind person gave me a tatoo
adoro Rhapsody: elixa
morgano Bravin: yes happy irthday again
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks so much everyone :)))
Archmage Atlantis: It means heaven in Kanje
morgano Bravin: may I send u a kiss,x
Eden Haiku: Bye birthday girl, enjoy your enlightenment!
Agatha Macbeth: .-''''-.,.-''''-.
Agatha Macbeth: ! I LOVE !
Agatha Macbeth: ". YOU ."
Agatha Macbeth: '''-.,.-
Eden Haiku: Cute kiss adoro :)
Eliza Madrigal: squealing in delight, how sweet sweet sweet
Agatha Macbeth: Like the cake...
Eliza Madrigal: Back at you all
Eden Haiku: Love you (((Eliza))))!
Agatha Macbeth: Is that the tattoo on your chest Arch?
Archmage Atlantis: Yes
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, I remember Kiki saying it means heaven (or sky)
morgano Bravin: get your shirt off arch
Archmage Atlantis: When he and I separated, I tried to live without it
adoro Rhapsody: now u r tohether again ?
adoro Rhapsody: arch ?
Archmage Atlantis: No, nor will we ever be
adoro Rhapsody: together
adoro Rhapsody: ok i see
Agatha Macbeth: :(
adoro Rhapsody: living apart together
adoro Rhapsody: with a tatoo
adoro Rhapsody: is new combination
Archmage Atlantis: It is burned in my flesh, my flesh is in my mind..........my mind will forget
Archmage Atlantis: And I will be another
Agatha Macbeth nods
adoro Rhapsody: what does it mean ?
Archmage Atlantis: Blessing and Namaste
adoro Rhapsody: wow
Archmage Atlantis: Aggie can tell you, adoro
morgano Bravin: nice chest Arch
Agatha Macbeth smiles
morgano Bravin: the tat will always say the same,,will it mean the same to you?
adoro Rhapsody: thats a good one
Archmage Atlantis: Fair question morgano
Archmage Atlantis: Perhaps, perhaps not
adoro Rhapsody: when u get older it maybe fet another meaning for u
adoro Rhapsody: get
morgano Bravin: perhaps what u have lost is what you were given, but what the tat says is what u give
Archmage Atlantis: perhaps
morgano Bravin: which is important
adoro Rhapsody: or what u see is not what u get
Archmage Atlantis: I try to live a moral life.......I fail many times
Eden Haiku: Will go for a walk now the sun came up after the rain, bye everyone. Enjoy your week of vacation Agathita :))
adoro Rhapsody: bye
Qt Core: By Eden
Agatha Macbeth: See you edie, take care
morgano Bravin: bye eden,,u dont have a lil haiku for us?
Archmage Atlantis: Because what is moral, is not an easy question

--BELL--(1415)

adoro Rhapsody: sure
morgano Bravin: I think that even if we had the right answer it wouldnt have much value unless you had to work it out
adoro Rhapsody: bravo !
Calvino Rabeni: yes good insight!
Agatha Macbeth: Bravo Bravin :)
adoro Rhapsody: brave heart
adoro Rhapsody: maass
adoro Rhapsody: meaning as a self service
morgano Bravin: I need to do some clubbing,,Arch put ur shirt on before u catch a cold
Agatha Macbeth: :)
adoro Rhapsody: mama says
Archmage Atlantis: I have to go watcj Dr Phil tell me how he has figured hou how we are all deformed
adoro Rhapsody: bye brave woman
Agatha Macbeth: Have a dance for me Morg
Archmage Atlantis: *g*
morgano Bravin: thanks Ags
Qt Core: bye morgano
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Arch, take care
adoro Rhapsody: sticky peace of cake ?
morgano Bravin: bye guys..and gals
arabella Ella: bye morgano
morgano Bravin: yea,,i have to work off the calories now
Agatha Macbeth: You could start by putting the cake down ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: Dear me
adoro Rhapsody: letting go
Agatha Macbeth: Stopping and dropping
adoro Rhapsody: gone for shopping
Agatha Macbeth: Helzapoppin
adoro Rhapsody: mary poppin
Agatha Macbeth: Mrs Jones!!!
adoro Rhapsody: s
Agatha Macbeth: Sorry...
arabella Ella: why are you apologising Ags?
Agatha Macbeth: For being mad
arabella Ella: aren't we all?
arabella Ella: to various degrees
Agatha Macbeth: To a greater or lesser degree
adoro Rhapsody: thats nothing to be ashamed for
Agatha Macbeth: Snap
arabella Ella: LOL
arabella Ella: being a bit mad in this world is a great advantage
adoro Rhapsody: its human
Agatha Macbeth: Well it helps
arabella Ella: gives you cutting edge above others
arabella Ella: makes life more interesting and entertaining too
Agatha Macbeth: Truly
Agatha Macbeth: onigokko
arabella Ella: LOL
adoro Rhapsody: wow
arabella Ella: mad Monday
adoro Rhapsody: still crazy after all those years
arabella Ella: LOL
adoro Rhapsody: good for condition
arabella Ella: and No Need to say you are Sorry
Agatha Macbeth: Keep on dancin'
adoro Rhapsody: Qt must think we r mad all together
arabella Ella: ah i must go so regret i must stop
arabella Ella: stop
arabella Ella: gtg bye everyone
Agatha Macbeth: I think I just trod on Qt
adoro Rhapsody: bye
Qt Core: surely not
Qt Core: bye Ara
Calvino Rabeni: bye Ara :)
arabella Ella: i will go and be mad elsewhere for a short while :)
Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now dears, do be careful out there
adoro Rhapsody: namaste

At this point Yours Truly poofed, but the conversation continued awhile

--BELL--(1430)

adoro Rhapsody: is there something we could share ?
adoro Rhapsody: or just silence to share ?
adoro Rhapsody: could
Calvino Rabeni: I was wondering what "self service" means in your ideas, Adoro?
adoro Rhapsody: ok that u make your own interpretation or meaning of something
Calvino Rabeni: oh, ok
Calvino Rabeni: I see
adoro Rhapsody: in cloud computing we see more aas services
adoro Rhapsody: saas = software as a service
adoro Rhapsody: or security as a service
Calvino Rabeni: what is the relationship between cloud computing and the meaning of a personal thing such as a tatoo?
adoro Rhapsody: and we see also more self service concepts nowdays
adoro Rhapsody: ok no realition yet
adoro Rhapsody: no relation yet
adoro Rhapsody: pure associating
adoro Rhapsody: i like that
Calvino Rabeni: ah ok
adoro Rhapsody: sometimes it brings creative solutions
Calvino Rabeni: when traditional services are broken up, then it forces people to be creative
adoro Rhapsody: but Qt can tell us more about creative design in Milano
adoro Rhapsody: thats the good of a crisis
adoro Rhapsody: but dont think i am in crisis now
Qt Core: Me and creative design are quite estranged from each other
adoro Rhapsody: but its core business in milano i thought
Qt Core: maybe creative, but design ...
adoro Rhapsody: ok
adoro Rhapsody: not all milanese are designers
Calvino Rabeni: when corporations no longer provide security and commoditize labour, then it becomes fashionable for who were "workers" before, to become "entrepreneurs"
Qt Core: yes, but not mine ;-) most if not all fashion stores/brand would go bankrupt if more people would be like me
adoro Rhapsody: ok
Qt Core: more than fashionable the only choiche
Calvino Rabeni: That sounds like an idea of Lao Tzu
adoro Rhapsody: thats good for crisis
adoro Rhapsody: lao tze is a new brand of rituals cosmetics
adoro Rhapsody: see www.rituals.com
adoro Rhapsody: the tao product line
adoro Rhapsody: its a kind of food balm
Calvino Rabeni: that's creepy
adoro Rhapsody: sorry for this comercial break
adoro Rhapsody: sure
Qt Core: many people are dumped and then "rehired" as professionist, so almost no social costs for the hirer
adoro Rhapsody: sure
adoro Rhapsody: thats is misuse
Calvino Rabeni: yes
adoro Rhapsody: mediaval times come back
adoro Rhapsody: medieaval
Qt Core: and those very little professionists starts having to say bye bye to vacation and ill time, loans and such
adoro Rhapsody: sure
adoro Rhapsody: thats crisis
adoro Rhapsody: we see the same in health jobs
adoro Rhapsody: office helps u with solicitating course or tips to be an entrepreneur
adoro Rhapsody: but they like to see u go

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Qt Core: i find sad how those little entrepreneurs are called here, "partite iva", losely translated as "vat codes"
adoro Rhapsody: it looks like it will be an ever lasting hard world
adoro Rhapsody: denigration is part of the game
Calvino Rabeni: I was for a long time in favor of the idea of "life long learning" - then at some point, I read that some people consider it a strategy of corporations to turn knowledge workers intonto commodities, just like they did for factory workers many years ago
Qt Core: but this isn't a new name, it has many years
adoro Rhapsody: yes reuse it
adoro Rhapsody: its of all times
adoro Rhapsody: we lived in a social utopia some decades
adoro Rhapsody: now its hard to be back again some ages ago
Qt Core: i've read some articles that were saying that the golden generation was the one born just after WW2
adoro Rhapsody: the baby boomers
adoro Rhapsody: its the reaction on crisis
Calvino Rabeni: I don't think so - I think it was the ones born during the 30's
Calvino Rabeni: because they hit peak earning potential in the 50's
Qt Core: that enjoyed the economic boom when young, got "rich" in theyr 30/50 and will enjoy the social services in their old age
Calvino Rabeni: the boomers were a bit too late for that
adoro Rhapsody: ok
adoro Rhapsody: sharp analyse
adoro Rhapsody: cal
adoro Rhapsody: u could be right
Calvino Rabeni: the golden age bubble was the post-ww2 era, and whoever was 25 - 40 probably was the best timing
Calvino Rabeni: many boomers are less secure financially than their parents
Calvino Rabeni: and were less well fortified by the "work ethic"
Calvino Rabeni: which was somewhat dismantled by the counterculture of the 1960's
adoro Rhapsody: they couldaffort it , it was a luxury problrm
Qt Core: nowadays there are really a few of them, but people old enough to have endired both world war were used to say that young people needed to experience (even if not as soldiers) a war to understand life
adoro Rhapsody: my grandfather said that too
Calvino Rabeni: I think they meant an old-fashioned war, not a modern war
adoro Rhapsody: when we didnot eat our potatoos
adoro Rhapsody: ofcourse
Calvino Rabeni: the modern wars are managed, so that there is not a strong sacrifice or inconvenience for the population
Qt Core: if you are not the target of a smart bomb, that is
adoro Rhapsody: but the pictures are all over the world
Calvino Rabeni: pictures are easily turned away from
adoro Rhapsody: so the mental impact is much bigger
adoro Rhapsody: ok u r right
Calvino Rabeni: poverty, job disruptions, need to cooperate for survival, many dead friends and relatives, sacrifice ... that is not easily forgotten
Calvino Rabeni: media doesn't do much to help people understand war
adoro Rhapsody: sure
Qt Core: why should they ? :-(
adoro Rhapsody: ok
adoro Rhapsody: there seems to be no need for them
adoro Rhapsody: so it goes on and on
Calvino Rabeni: no need for what?
Calvino Rabeni: wars?
adoro Rhapsody: need to stop pictures about wars
Calvino Rabeni: ah
adoro Rhapsody: its just an industry
Calvino Rabeni: plus a social welfare program
adoro Rhapsody: abolute right

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adoro Rhapsody: war disguised as social welfare ?
adoro Rhapsody: a wolf like a lamb ?
adoro Rhapsody: sorry no politics here
Calvino Rabeni: no disguise, the war shows as the main face of it
adoro Rhapsody: well its late here
adoro Rhapsody: midnight hour
adoro Rhapsody: so something lihgt or a joke before i go to bed ?
Calvino Rabeni: nice idea, hmmm
adoro Rhapsody: orinoko ?
Calvino Rabeni: does your country have a food calendar?
adoro Rhapsody: yes
Calvino Rabeni: so does this one - each day has a special food
adoro Rhapsody: slice of five
Calvino Rabeni: I don't think you could survive on it as a menu :)
adoro Rhapsody: ha ha
Calvino Rabeni: Like Peach Pie, or Brandy Alexander
adoro Rhapsody: thats a good one
Calvino Rabeni: There's even a National Junk Food Day
adoro Rhapsody: i ll take a night cap
adoro Rhapsody: bye qt and cal
Calvino Rabeni: Bye
adoro Rhapsody: nice talking to u
Calvino Rabeni: Time for me to do ... something physical
Calvino Rabeni: likewise Adoro
Calvino Rabeni: see you later
Calvino Rabeni: and QT :)
Qt Core: bye cal