2010.08.31 13:00 - Being and Seeing not Boring

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Aphrodite Macbain. The comments are by Aphrodite Macbain.

     

    Claiming and posting

    Qt Core: Hi Aphrodite
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Qt I'm trying to figure out how to claim a session or post a log
    Qt Core: yes, but never did a log, just tried my first grab a couple week ago ;-)
    Bertram Jacobus: hy cal, aph and qt
    Qt Core: hi Cal, Bert (those two are more expert in logging issues, Aphro)
    Aphrodite Macbain: OK Here's Calvino- perhaps he can answer all my questions. Hi Calvino, bertram
    Calvino Rabeni: Hi everyone :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I have officially become a Guardian but have no idea how to claim a session and post a log
    Aphrodite Macbain: I was wondering whether you could tell me how
    Aphrodite Macbain: now or another time
    Qt Core: didn't past sunday meeting explained that, maybe it is already posted

    Aphrodite Macbain: not really. There was more discussion around posting than claiming

    Bertram Jacobus: ah ! then first - another welcome and congratulations for having joinde the play as being group aph ! :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks Bertram
    Qt Core: yes, as only the last claim is the winning one ;-)
    Bertram Jacobus: hy eliza and sharon ! :-
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Aphrodite :)
    Bertram Jacobus: hello fox
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I wondered if I stopped conversation in its tracks :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Fox
    Fox Monacular: hi everyone, sorry just passing on my way to dream seminar:)
    Fox Monacular: have a good session everyone
    SophiaSharon Larnia: waves :)
    Qt Core: bye Fox, have fun
    Aphrodite Macbain: bye fox
    Qt Core: hi Sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    --BELL--
    Aphrodite Macbain: I removed a few of the cats. They were just asking for trouble
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, they were looking at the puffins, interestingly
    Aphrodite Macbain: Puffins are tough birds
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I didnt know what a puffin was until yesterday
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hope you have learned to appreciate their appearance in your life. ;-}
    SophiaSharon Larnia: was working with the exercises in Pema last chapter today, it is seems to be APAPB that has been talked about on the wiki
    Aphrodite Macbain: APAPB?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: was looking for 'something else', and noticed that I'm always looking for 'something else'
    SophiaSharon Larnia: appreciate the appearance as presented by being
    SophiaSharon Larnia: -the, sorry bad typer
    Aphrodite Macbain: all clear 4 me
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Appreciate the presence of appearance as a presentation by Being
    SophiaSharon Larnia: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/PaB_log_excerpts/Excerpts_%28short%29/X_Other_Topics.../Appreciate_the_Presence_of_Appearance_as_a_Presentation_by_Being
    SophiaSharon Larnia: had this idea that Pema was being nice to us after the last excercise :D
    Aphrodite Macbain: what was the last exercise
    SophiaSharon Larnia: letting yourself be seen
    Qt Core: ouch, i'm not even sure if i see myself
    Aphrodite Macbain: both exercises seem tough to me
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: good point QT
    --BELL--
    Bertram Jacobus: i think we see more or less
    Bertram Jacobus: oops - sry
    SophiaSharon Larnia: see more or less Bert?
    Bertram Jacobus: yes : related to being seen
    Bertram Jacobus: and seeing oneself
    SophiaSharon Larnia: seeing being, you are also looking at yourself?
    Bertram Jacobus: more or less we all are able to do those things, but mostly not perfect, complete, 100 % - when we could do that - may be we were enlightenwed or how everone wants to call such
    Bertram Jacobus: sure. also looking at oneself, because oneself is a part of being
    Bertram Jacobus: as qt mentioned it : seeing oneself ...
    Qt Core: like going out of mouselook ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: makes the angst kind of pointless
    Qt Core: more than seeing juorself seeing yourself togheter with others
    Qt Core: typonese at full force tonight...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i understood what you typed but the idea made my head spin anyway :D
    Qt Core: well, the idea of seeing oneself from an outer perspective isn't really natural ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia suddenly thinks of moving your avatar in sl and usually seeing the back of the head
    Bertram Jacobus: i´m not sure about that qt : isn´t it only a matter of being self concious ?
    Qt Core: yes, but form me even that is still easier from "home"
    Bertram Jacobus: i see. interesting. may be only a matter of perspective ...
    Bertram Jacobus: the view, the understanding, how one is
    Aphrodite Macbain: The only time I see myself is when I look at my avi . The rest of the time I look at the rest of the world
    Bertram Jacobus: whether more "at home" or more "may persons, aspects, stages"
    Bertram Jacobus: in meditation one looks at oneself often or at least sometimes ...
    Aphrodite Macbain: we look In oneself
    Bertram Jacobus: hi lennox ! :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: and what do we see in ourselves? Acres and acres of mazes
    Qt Core: and haven't you noticed, Aphro, then when you are in mouselook you have less information on how to act here in SL ? One wonder if it is the same in rl, so to speak
    Bertram Jacobus: take a seat with us if you like lennox (?) :-)
    lennox Leeeroy: thx
    Bertram Jacobus: you´re very welcome :-9
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi lennox
    Aphrodite Macbain: mouselook is a wonderful metaphor
    lennox Leeeroy: good to see you
    Qt Core: hi lennox
    lennox Leeeroy: hi, yes been here several times now
    --BELL--
    Bertram Jacobus: ah. good. thx lennox - so you know all our recordings etc. ... :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: damn - written in the silent time again - sry ! ;o)
    Aphrodite Macbain winks sympathetically at bertram
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: maye I am looking through my eyes in mouselook ;)
    lennox Leeeroy: yes I know about that
    Aphrodite Macbain: There are times when I feel completely invisible
    Qt Core: do we have a little sl in our heads where we watch the world and plan or replay things to try to understand it ?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thinks over 'plan or replay' :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Please say more Qt
    Qt Core: i was just thinking about how we try to see the world in our heads, and thought it would me a little sl
    Qt Core: then there we will see ourselves
    Bertram Jacobus: heyy selene ! ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Selene
    Qt Core: hi selene
    Aphrodite Macbain: Our imaginations are reflected in SL?
    Selene Northman: Good evening Bertram and sophia, hi everyone :)
    lennox Leeeroy: hi Selene
    Aphrodite Macbain: There are some powerful imaginations at play in SL
    Bertram Jacobus: which imaginations you mean aph ? :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: for example ?
    Bertram Jacobus: some example(s) ? :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Some of the sites are incredible - very creative,
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm sure you have seen many. I have bee exploring one in Siena
    Bertram Jacobus: ah okay : you mean creations ?
    Aphrodite Macbain: creations come out of creative imaginations
    Bertram Jacobus: i see now what you mean. ty aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: They are like walking into someone elses fantacies or daydreams
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    SophiaSharon Larnia: that exactly what they are
    Aphrodite Macbain: I am so delighted when I see what goes on in people's heads - well, not always
    SophiaSharon Larnia: even the shadows
    Qt Core: thinking about some places i've been and shudder thinking someone dream such things...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Aphrodite Macbain: true- but it is part of someone's reality. Appreciate and then move on
    SophiaSharon Larnia: *grins*
    Qt Core: appreciate, survive and then move on or move on to survive ;-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: to survive and hopefully do more
    Aphrodite Macbain: than just survive.
    Aphrodite Macbain: I saw INCEPTION last night. Now THER's a creative mind at work
    Aphrodite Macbain: THERE
    Selene Northman: is wishing you all a pleasant day/night :) tc
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I'll never forget a place I saw when I first came to sl, a sim made entirely out of crystal textures, I'm sure I was trespasing, but I never forgot it
    Bertram Jacobus: bye everybody. i´ll leave for now. have a nice time and ty for the talk !
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye Selene
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Bert!!
    Qt Core: bye bert
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have fun
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Bye Selene
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :))
    Aphrodite Macbain: bye Bert. Thanks
    Qt Core: i'm getting quite nervous for having to wait late september to see that movie
    Bertram Jacobus: and may all beings be happy plz ...
    lennox Leeeroy: Bye Bert Selene
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Aphrodite, did you? I have to see it myself :D
    --BELL--
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh Qt thats right, you're going to see it when you visit the state?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: states (usa) --> reads the logs heheh
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes. It's very hard on the senses (visual and audio) but amazing what those animators can create
    Aphrodite Macbain: Like a particularly bad but fascinating dream
    Calvino Rabeni: I think the "stuck" imagination is un-appreciated - the one that imagines the "business as usual" over and over again.
    Qt Core: (being joking that time) i'll see here , but it will come out on the 24th if i'm right
    Aphrodite Macbain: can you say more Calvino
    Aphrodite Macbain: do you mean the calm accepting mind?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hmm, thinks about my own stuck imaginatin...
    Calvino Rabeni: It has the power to keep things the same, to recreate the current state. But it isn't regarded as imagination, although it is.
    Calvino Rabeni: We give credit to imagination when it makes something new
    Aphrodite Macbain: My imagination gets triggered when I find myself facing something new or ambiguous
    Aphrodite Macbain: but stays on the same track otherwise
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Aphrodite Macbain: a challend to recreate the same sate and not get bored
    Calvino Rabeni: Why do imaginations get "stuck"? When is that a good thing, and when better to get unstuck?
    Calvino Rabeni: And how to get unstuck, if that is a desirable thing?
    Calvino Rabeni: (I'm full of questions more than answers at the moment) :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    SophiaSharon Larnia: off topis: I thing i spent all weekend like that, asking myself question after question, the stretching seemed to be in the asking
    Aphrodite Macbain: That's wehn my imagination kicks in - when lots of questions come at me. My mind is constantly redefining realityy
    SophiaSharon Larnia: topic* I think*
    Calvino Rabeni: SSL was "contemplating"
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Calvino Rabeni: Stretching awareness
    Aphrodite Macbain: that takes imagination
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: contemplation is a word that seems rather more glamorous than what happens
    Aphrodite Macbain: perhaps creating new ways of being takes imagination, getting unstuck from the comfortable
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, it is a messy and unglamourous business :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: putting clothes in the washer, question, making dinner, question :D
    Aphrodite Macbain: boring
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Aphrodite Macbain: I am always afraid of being bore. It's depressing.
    Calvino Rabeni: Then go into it Aph :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: being bored and being a bore!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: me too
    SophiaSharon Larnia: heheh
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I do have to go for now :))
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes but it's frightenin Cal
    Calvino Rabeni: Can't die of it :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye everybody :D
    Aphrodite Macbain: may want to
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have fun
    Qt Core: bye Sophia
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye Sophia thanks for the hot tips
    lennox Leeeroy: bye
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes get a plot here Aph!!!!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: waves
    Aphrodite Macbain: ciao
    Aphrodite Macbain: what's it doing in Italy right now QT?
    Qt Core: ehm, nothing ?
    Aphrodite Macbain: you're in Milano right?
    Qt Core: almost, yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: sorry, Italy is on my mind these days. It's puring with rain here on the west coast of Canada and I like to imagine being there in October
    Aphrodite Macbain: pouring!
    Aphrodite Macbain: where it's sunny and warm
    Qt Core: we are having the most sunny days of this summer,, even if temps are getting lower (min 9C max 27C)
    Aphrodite Macbain: hmmm and that's in the north!
    Qt Core: today the sun was really eye hurting
    Aphrodite Macbain: put on those dark glasses
    Qt Core: oh yes, for deiving surely
    Qt Core: driving
    Aphrodite Macbain: I am afraid I have to go now and catch up on my boring RL!
    lennox Leeeroy: bye, will go too, thx
    Qt Core: bye Aphro and try ti have some fun
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'll'll try and deal with the log and see what I can do with it
    Aphrodite Macbain: bye Lennox
    --BELL--
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye QT
    Qt Core: bye lennox
    Aphrodite Macbain: alla prossima
    Qt Core: ;)

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