2009.12.07 13:00 - not with this package

The Guardian for this meeting was Stim Morane. The comments are by Stim Morane.

Qt Core: hi Stim
Stim Morane: Hi Qt!
--BELL--
Stim Morane: songbirds and snow flurries ...
Qt Core: heavy wet snow, from size and speed ;-)
Stim Morane: yes
Stim Morane: soon we'll be buried
Stim Morane: Hi Bertram
Bertram Jacobus: hey stim hey qt ! :-)
Qt Core: hi Bertram
Bertram Jacobus: hey mick ! :-)
Qt Core: hi Mick
Mickorod Renard: Hi Guys
Stim Morane: hi Mick
Mickorod Renard: Hi Stim, sorry I missed Wok last time
Mickorod Renard: I really miss it
Stim Morane: :)
Mickorod Renard: Hows Bert?,,sorted stuf out at home?
Bertram Jacobus: ehm - not sure whether i understand ... (?) sry -
Mickorod Renard: did u have the wierrd nieghbour?
Bertram Jacobus: ah. yes :-(
Bertram Jacobus: it´s still "under construction" ;o)
Mickorod Renard: ok,,say no more,,but my thoughts go with you
Bertram Jacobus: so kind mick - thanks A LOT ! ...
Mickorod Renard: :)
Bertram Jacobus: hello aubergine ! ... :-)
Aubergine Mint: hi everyone
Bertram Jacobus: hey calvino ! :-)
Mickorod Renard: Hi Aub.hi Calvino
Bertram Jacobus: now heavy incoming here lol - hey ssl ! :o)
Calvino Rabeni: Hi Bertram and everyone
Bertram Jacobus: and yaku ! :-)
Qt Core: hi aubergine, calbvino, sophiasharon
Bertram Jacobus: and eliza ! :-)
Mickorod Renard: Hi Yaku
Stim Morane: Hi Aubergine, Yakuzza, Sophia
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone :)
Stim Morane: Calvino
Mickorod Renard: Sopia
Aubergine Mint: Hi Yaku
Mickorod Renard: Elizaaaaa
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Mickorod Renard: he he he
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Everyone :)
Eliza Madrigal: Nice to meet you Aubergine
Stim Morane: Hi Eliza
Aubergine Mint: hi Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Stim :)
Aubergine Mint: Hi Stim
Bertram Jacobus: and mick : one more sentence perhaps : at the moment i live from day to day . and the last days were a bit better ... i´m thankful for that ...
Qt Core: hi Eliza, Yak
Mickorod Renard: thats great Bert
Bertram Jacobus: but i have no trust in good tendencies at the moment. too many ugly turns i experienced in the last times. i know : not nice - but true.
Bertram Jacobus: so one or i gets formed by outer circumstances ...
Mickorod Renard: well, i have a few bad turns goin on at the mom too,,but I have to try and just ride them out
Bertram Jacobus: very interesting to look at such functions
Bertram Jacobus: what do you mean with "try" ? how ?
Mickorod Renard: I think there is sometimes a conflict of nature
Bertram Jacobus: conflict of natire ? ;-)
Bertram Jacobus: nature*
Mickorod Renard: for example,,if you are a sensitive person,,like me,,its dificult to be non disturbed by things that are not so good
Bertram Jacobus: yes
Bertram Jacobus: so WE are in conflict with nature that means ?
Mickorod Renard: mmmm,,thinking about that
--BELL--
Mickorod Renard: maybe in conflict with our own nature and the outside influences that we find so dificyult to ignor
Mickorod Renard: oops
Bertram Jacobus: ;-)
Bertram Jacobus: and yes mick, i agree. but ignorance is not the way i think ...
Mickorod Renard: It looks like I will have to pay 30k euro for capital gains just because my only home that I am selling took longer than a year to sell,,I am supposed to just say,,ce'st la vie
Bertram Jacobus: uh
Eliza Madrigal: What is the alternative to saying ce'st la vie?
Mickorod Renard: for some strange reason I feel rather pissed off
Bertram Jacobus: strange reason ?
Mickorod Renard: I could kick the dog
Eliza Madrigal: Oh :(
Bertram Jacobus: that is really understandable mick !
Bertram Jacobus: i´m very sorry for you ! ... :-/
Mickorod Renard: but there is no alternative,,so I will have to find a way to resolve it in my own mind
Mickorod Renard: its like working for a period of time for nothing
Mickorod Renard: wasted
Eliza Madrigal: the house sold... that's something you've been waiting for quite a while
Bertram Jacobus: oh yeah. so good thoughts mike ! essential ... to find a quiet mind ... lovely ... and sorry again for you ! may you find the solution as fast as possible ! ...
Mickorod Renard: well,,I am not going to let it get me down,,there is nothing I can do,,and to pay the proice of being sad about it is more personal cost
Eliza Madrigal went, a few yrs ago, from having enough imaginary equity in a house to pay for two colleges, to nada, in the course of 6 months .... yup, not easy for sure :)
Mickorod Renard: yea
Bertram Jacobus: yes. and i associate : there are so many heavy life´s lessons ... hope that we will grow with them (!) ...
Stim Morane: sorry
Eliza Madrigal: but it was imaginary...
Eliza Madrigal: I counted on something not there... had to let it go...
Mickorod Renard: thats perhaps not so bad then eliza
Eliza Madrigal: :) Well, a lesson for SURE
Mickorod Renard: every cloud has a silver lining
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks though... part of a kind of collective fantasy in some ways though... house prices/value...
Bertram Jacobus: so friendly ...
Bertram Jacobus: so important ...
Eliza Madrigal: dreaded fees! ((Mick))
Bertram Jacobus: the less material aspects ... is that unfitting at this moment here ? ...
Mickorod Renard: yes,,I still have those to pay
Mickorod Renard: take my advice,,never buy in France
Eliza Madrigal: Ohh but would be lovely to live in France... sigh
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bertram Jacobus: hm. okay. but - i don´t have much. i gave most away ...
Eliza Madrigal thinks if we'd been on the ball we might have swapped houses Mick! hehehe
Eliza Madrigal: How's Miami sound? :)
Mickorod Renard: he he
Mickorod Renard: sounds lovely
Mickorod Renard: do I get a fast speed boat and a fast car too?
Eliza Madrigal: Hm, not with this package
SophiaSharon Larnia: lol
Eliza Madrigal: maybe a cat
Eliza Madrigal: Hi StiX
Bertram Jacobus: hey stix :o)
StiX Harvey: heyaz
Mickorod Renard: Hi Stix
Stim Morane: Hi StiX
StiX Harvey: hiya :)
Bertram Jacobus: nice shoes ! :-)
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Stix
Bertram Jacobus: hello gaya ... :-))
SophiaSharon Larnia: HI Gaya
Mickorod Renard: Hi Gaya
StiX Harvey: hi :)
Stim Morane: Hi Gaya
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Gaya :)
Mickorod Renard: are you staying stix?
Mickorod Renard: have a seat
Gaya Ethaniel sneaks in and waves hello :)
StiX Harvey: im just looking around.. wuts appening?
--BELL--
Mickorod Renard: I have given you a note card stix
Bertram Jacobus: the talks here are recorded stix - is it ok, when we record your commends, too ? :-)
StiX Harvey: oh.. thx yes
StiX Harvey: i need to go but thankyou
Mickorod Renard: bye stix
Eliza Madrigal: :) bye StiX
Bertram Jacobus: bye may be cu again stix :-)
StiX Harvey: byee
Gaya Ethaniel: Bye :)
Stim Morane: Bye
Aubergine Mint: gtg see you next time
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Aubergine
Bertram Jacobus: bye aubergine. have a good time
Eliza Madrigal: So how is everything, Stim?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal looks at yakuzza and thinks of things teachers do to kids who fall asleep in class... paint fingernails, etc
Coucouille Morigi: hi all
Coucouille Morigi: have a good evening
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Coucouille :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
Mickorod Renard: I am supprised at how many wild animals seem to be roaming around in rl
Eliza Madrigal giggles
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Coucouville
Mickorod Renard: Hi Couucoulle
Bertram Jacobus: hi coucouille ! thanks, same to you please ! :-)
Mickorod Renard: I always feel like when I run one over I will pay with bad kama
SophiaSharon Larnia: me too Mick, ha
Eliza Madrigal: Do you two drive around SL?
SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Mickorod Renard: I nearly had 2 foxes last night and today I got a bird
Calvino Rabeni: It's true, Mick, they keep on roaming, living their lives like it was the thing to do :)
Eliza Madrigal: "Let the wild rumpus start!"
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Eliza Madrigal thinks no one got her childish reference but it is okay :)
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Mickorod Renard: I didnt realise what I had said..no pun intended
Mickorod Renard: :)
Mickorod Renard: has anyone heard of a coypu? not sure if its spelt that way
Eliza Madrigal: the semi aquatic rodent? why , yes
Mickorod Renard: yes
Eliza Madrigal giggles because she opened google
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Mickorod Renard: well I ran one of those over once
Mickorod Renard: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Eek
Eliza Madrigal: In SL?
Mickorod Renard: noooo,,,rl
Eliza Madrigal: it looks like a beaver
Qt Core: there are some of them here innorthern italy, in the canals around Milan, they are driving away standard rats
Mickorod Renard: yes,,I could have said I had a beaver one night,,but no doubt You would think I was being rude
SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
Eliza Madrigal shakes head and thinks ara should be here to apologize for you Mick
Mickorod Renard: grin
Calvino Rabeni: Not at all Mick, there are beavers in this area also!
--BELL--
Mickorod Renard: In England, depending if you are silly or not,,most animals have sexual connotations attached tioo them
Mickorod Renard: so its very dificult to have a sensible conversation about animals
Calvino Rabeni: What is connoted on the Bear?
Mickorod Renard: well, I wouldnt like to be interpreter for all the anomal connotations,,,but I guess i havnt thiought about bear
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye all, take care!!
Eliza Madrigal: Nice to see you Sharon!!
Mickorod Renard: but bear is linked to naked
Bertram Jacobus: bye ssl have a good time
Stim Morane: Bye Sophia
SophiaSharon Larnia: waves
Mickorod Renard: bye Sophia
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Bye :)
Bertram Jacobus: i´ll leave too - ty for the conversation !
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bert :)
Mickorod Renard: bye Bert
Gaya Ethaniel: Bye :)
Stim Morane: bye Bertram
Bertram Jacobus: and ... may all beings be happy please (!) ...
Gaya Ethaniel: You too :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: nacht bert
Eliza Madrigal: :)) You too Bert
Mickorod Renard: and you Bert
Bertram Jacobus: i´m no being ? hmmmm . thinkin away ....
Mickorod Renard: Gaya, why are you a rabbit?
Gaya Ethaniel: lol
Gaya Ethaniel: I don't know Mick, I wanted to try non-human AV and people like this one very much ... :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes they/we do!
Stim Morane: :)
Mickorod Renard: yes, I must admit, when you were not a racbbit I didnt feel so comfortable
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Eliza Madrigal: especially with the little hat
Calvino Rabeni: Yes! Everyone likes the Rabbit.
Gaya Ethaniel: ty :)
Calvino Rabeni: Or Bunny
Mickorod Renard: yes,,bunny is nice
Gaya Ethaniel: I heard that a rabbit is something that distracts people from spiritual path.
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Mickorod Renard: I have been looking for a rupert bear Avi
Stim Morane: yes, very dangerous those rabbits
Gaya Ethaniel: look at this, oh look at that ... something like that
Gaya Ethaniel: heheheh
Gaya Ethaniel: So it's important not to take me seriously :P
Stim Morane: :)
Mickorod Renard: :)
Stim Morane: there are many rabbits here, really.
Gaya Ethaniel: ?
Qt Core: bye all, have fun
Gaya Ethaniel: Bye :)
Stim Morane: bye, Qt
Calvino Rabeni: I like the native american animal traditions too
Mickorod Renard: bye Qt
Calvino Rabeni: Bye Qt
Eliza Madrigal: a hallucination... like harvey
Gaya Ethaniel looks around for more rabbits ...
Stim Morane: :)
Stim Morane: I just meant the rabbit-distractions of our own minds
Gaya Ethaniel: not monkey?
Gaya Ethaniel: What's the difference?
Eliza Madrigal: yes indeed... monkeys chasing rabbits
Stim Morane: it's just icon-language ...
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: ahhhh
Mickorod Renard: is there sybolism?,,do you think,,or is it just a bit of fun?
Stim Morane: it's a picture language, meant to connect with things we have intuitions about
Calvino Rabeni: Animals carry parts of human nature
Stim Morane: it worked better in the past, when people saw monkeys along the path, etc etc
Stim Morane: I mean, any path, outdoors
Stim Morane: modern people don't see many animals, doing their thing ...
Calvino Rabeni: I see them pretty regularly
Stim Morane: :)
Mickorod Renard: me too
Eliza Madrigal: I have to run to get my dd from chorus before another meeting... Thanks everyone! Nice to see you Stim, Everyone!
Gaya Ethaniel: Bye Eliza :)
Stim Morane: Nice to see you, Eliza. BYe
Mickorod Renard: bye Eliza
Calvino Rabeni: The animals function as symbols for people, is important
Stim Morane: I will have to go too ...
Stim Morane: yes, Calvino
Gaya Ethaniel: Me too. Enjoy your day Stim and everyone :)
Calvino Rabeni: Yes, I believe there's another event to attend
Mickorod Renard: bye Stim
Stim Morane: bye!
Mickorod Renard: whats that?
Calvino Rabeni: Time Workshop, I think
Mickorod Renard: wow,,I havnt been to time workshop in ages
--BELL--
Calvino Rabeni: Here's a ref on animal symbolism
Calvino Rabeni: http://www.ninewellnesscentre.com/ivwc_animalspirittotems.html
Mickorod Renard: thanks
Calvino Rabeni: I must go however, see you 2 later then.
Calvino Rabeni: :)
Mickorod Renard: ok,,see u soon Cal
Mickorod Renard: I may try time w.shp
Mickorod Renard: are you comming yaku?