2010.08.11 07:00 - August Dream Circle I

The Guardian for this meeting was Gaya Ethaniel. The comments are by Gaya Ethaniel.

Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Lucinda :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Lucinda :)
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Gaya, Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: lovely kimono Lucinda! :)
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Lucinda Lavender: Thank you...
Lucinda Lavender: think somehow I wanted to go back to my old outfit but had to see this one too...
Gaya Ethaniel: Pretty colours :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes, really nice... cheerful

--BELL--

Gaya Ethaniel: Let's give a couple of minutes in case someone's late then start.
Lucinda Lavender: sounds good
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Sure :) I haven't been dreaming exactly, lately... so what I have to share is from back in October... and that only if there are just a few of us I think. It is long :)
Lucinda Lavender: I will start writing my dream to get ready, ok Eliza
Gaya Ethaniel: ok :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Maxine says we always dream ... it's rather we don't remember very well sometimes.
Gaya Ethaniel: OK whenever you're ready Lucinda then Eliza etc.
Eliza Madrigal: yes, it has been more like not quite telling dreams from reality..
Gaya Ethaniel: heh?
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Ewan :) Please six next to me.
Ewan Bonham: Hi Gaya..
Ewan Bonham: still rerzzing.
Gaya Ethaniel: Lucinda is just starting ...
Lucinda Lavender: Dream August 7 Looking for a labradorite ring. I ask a salesperson who hands me a labradorite figurine of a Buddhist nun, (about six inches tall) and a necklace that is also made of labradorite and in the shape of a bunch of grapes. The sales person stands in the center of a large round table. This environment is cream colored and feels like an old place. Then I notice se are in a school and the furniture is too close together and I advise moving it. The teachers didn't realize that it is too cramped.
Lucinda Lavender: pass to Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: ty Lucinda :) Dream from October: I experienced something in three parts: wind, sheer form, and I don’t know what the other was. It might have been light. Then the dream changed and I was in a smallish apartment, thinking that I was happier than when in a large place. I had started off living with one person but then was living with a girl.
Eliza Madrigal: She was telling me about her boyfriend who had died, and how much he liked his helicopter that he would fly it all around town. She pointed to a helicopter model on top of a bookshelf and we talked about how it used to be better when people would fly their helicopters and ride their horses freely about town that it isn’t like that anymore. She told me that there were still places.
Eliza Madrigal: There was a guest at the apartment at some point and I knew I had to write about the wind in the first dream, so I began to gather notebooks that were scattered everywhere to close myself off into the bedroom. I felt like I didn’t want to forget, but there were just so many notebooks to make sense of.
Eliza Madrigal: apologies for the length, and Pass to Gaya :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Thanks :)
Gaya Ethaniel: A cousin and I are hollow figures in white with features barely distinguishable. She is slightly taller than average while I’m small in size like a dwarf. We are locked in hands dancing, turning round and round, making me float in mid air. The air seems to be filled with light and laughter.
Gaya Ethaniel passes the stone to Ewan.
Ewan Bonham: Thank you, Gaya
Ewan Bonham: I often have re-occurring dreams..very similar..
Ewan Bonham: In this one, I seem to be in a scene which I am told is very familiar..

--BELL--

Ewan Bonham: Suddenly, I know that i am some kind of political figure
Ewan Bonham: like I had always been in that role for many years..
Ewan Bonham: I know that I am being accused of something.
Ewan Bonham: It seems very harsh...and the details do not come to my attention..
Ewan Bonham: I ask if I can meet my accusers...
Ewan Bonham: Or have a hearing of some sort..
Ewan Bonham: All that is impossible, it seems.
Ewan Bonham: I feel trapped and a bit lost..
Ewan Bonham: And in peril of losing what i have.
Ewan Bonham: I wake up only with this snippet.
Ewan Bonham: Few other actions or details..
Ewan Bonham: I am done
Ewan Bonham: Do I pass onto Lucinda?
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes :)
Ewan Bonham: pass to Lucinda..
Lucinda Lavender: I seem to be having some computer slowness so I would suggest we scroll back up to read this dream...
Gaya Ethaniel: Lucinda - "Dream August 7 Looking for a labradorite ring. I ask a salesperson who hands me a labradorite figurine of a Buddhist nun, (about six inches tall) and a necklace that is also made of labradorite and in the shape of a bunch of grapes. The sales person stands in the center of a large round table. This environment is cream colored and feels like an old place. Then I notice se are in a school and the furniture is too close together and I advise moving it ."
Lucinda Lavender: I pass to Eliza
Gaya Ethaniel: "he teachers didn't realize that it is too cramped."
Eliza Madrigal: I'm intrigued by the 'place' feeling old, and by the nun figure. Also, I'm moved that the dreamer has a sense of bringing what she finds into the school setting...
Eliza Madrigal: as though this is a place of devotion and care
Eliza Madrigal: she is attentive to the feel of the place for the children, and toward hm... perhaps sharing treasures she finds
Ewan Bonham: I enjoyed the feeling of seeking..
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Bruce :) Please sit on the brown cushion next to Ewan.
Ewan Bonham: and finding..
Gaya Ethaniel: Ewan, you can comment when you get the stone from me :) We are going anti-clockwise ...
Ewan Bonham: and an ancient figure working with you..
Eliza Madrigal: Pass the stone to Gaya
Ewan Bonham: pass to Gaya
Ewan Bonham: Ah, ok
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: The dreamer is looking for something in a moderate size, a ring ... then she receives a figurine and a necklace.
Gaya Ethaniel: I find it interesting that it's a religious figure ... a meaning of grapes I know is 'abundance'.
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Visitor :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Visitor, just a moment and I will give you a notecard about our group and this session
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Visitor: Thanks
Gaya Ethaniel: The second part of the dream seems to be related to Eliza's.
Gaya Ethaniel: In that both dreams seem to be seeking for space and openess.
Gaya Ethaniel passes the stone to Ewan.
Ewan Bonham: Thank you..
Ewan Bonham: I was heartened by what seems to be a dialogue with ancient figures and wisdom..

--BELL--

Ewan Bonham: The dialogue seems very open
Ewan Bonham: Your original request is met with another type of offering, yet well suited.
Ewan Bonham: I feel a warm engagement with these spirits.
Ewan Bonham: Perhaps their gifts can transcend into many areas of your life..
Ewan Bonham: Pass back to Lucinda
Lucinda Lavender: In this setting I noticed that perhaps there is reference to labradorite...because it is near to Nova Scotia...in some general sense...
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Lucinda Lavender: and also...one can have an experience of needing space when working in an area...in other parts of my life particularly tho that is just a personal aside
Lucinda Lavender: pass to Eliza
Lucinda Lavender: Pass to Eliza
Lucinda Lavender: thank you...
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Space for abundance :) Thank you Lucinda.  Are there further comments on this dream?
Gaya Ethaniel: Grapes ...
Gaya Ethaniel: It also symbolises the summer season ... and sometimes wish for many offsprings.
Gaya Ethaniel: Kind of related that Lucinda looks after many children :)
Gaya Ethaniel passes the stone to Ewan.
Ewan Bonham: Just procedural..Are we now on Eliza's dream?
Ewan Bonham: For Lucinda's dream I have no further comments..
Ewan Bonham: pass to Lucinda..
Lucinda Lavender: after the stone passes back to Eliza pass to Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Okay... here goes: I experienced something in three parts: wind, sheer form, and I don’t know what the other was. It might have been light. Then the dream changed and I was in a smallish apartment, thinking that I was happier than when in a large place. I had started off living with one person but then was living with a girl.
Eliza Madrigal: She was telling me about her boyfriend who had died, and how much he liked his helicopter that he would fly it all around town. She pointed to a helicopter model on top of a bookshelf and we talked about how it used to be better when people would fly their helicopters and ride their horses freely about town that it isn’t like that anymore. She told me that there were still places.
Eliza Madrigal: There was a guest at the apartment at some point and I knew I had to write about the wind in the first dream, so I began to gather notebooks that were scattered everywhere to close myself off into the bedroom. I felt like I didn’t want to forget, but there were just so many notebooks to make sense of.
Eliza Madrigal: End, pass to Gaya :)
Gaya Ethaniel is reading ...
Gaya Ethaniel: Wind, sheer form ... maybe light and discussion on moving about freely using horses or helicopters ...
Gaya Ethaniel: The dreamer is being told that there are such places, which I understand as it is possible.
Gaya Ethaniel: It seems that the dreamer is caught up about writing the dream down that made her to enclose herself off which is perhaps contrary to her wishes.
Gaya Ethaniel passes the stone to Ewan.
Ewan Bonham: The dream evokes feeling of sadness..

--BELL--

Ewan Bonham: Things that once were and felt rather intimate and familiar
Ewan Bonham: Are now lost..
Ewan Bonham: And wanting to retrieve a meaning somehow from notes etc.
Ewan Bonham: The helicopter intrigues me..
Ewan Bonham: It is a means of transport and looking at a larger picture..
Ewan Bonham: Yet, these days it is restricted...
Ewan Bonham: perhaps a time of transition..
Ewan Bonham: pass to Lucinda
Lucinda Lavender: thank you, the horse and helicopter....on ground and in sky, freedom. There is a source in the dream in the form of a woman..and her story. .the wind and sheer form and light...begin this dream...feels like creation. then the stories are told and put into the notebooks...contained. Maybe they are resting...for the moment.
Lucinda Lavender: pass to Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: :) Ty . Pass to Gaya
Gaya Ethaniel: Just want to comment ...
Gaya Ethaniel: I wonder if the dreamer has now found a vehicle to allow her to explore further afield :) And against such a vast spaciousness, perhaps it is not possible to hold onto all 'notes'.
Gaya Ethaniel passes the stone to Ewan.
Ewan Bonham: no further comments..
Ewan Bonham: passes to lucinda
Lucinda Lavender: pass to Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: pass to Gaya to share :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Thanks :)
Gaya Ethaniel: A cousin and I are hollow figures in white with features barely distinguishable. She is slightly taller than average while I’m small in size like a dwarf. We are locked in hands dancing, turning round and round, making me float in mid air. The air seems to be filled with light and laughter.
Gaya Ethaniel passes the stone to Ewan.
Ewan Bonham: the larger figure reminds me of as mother figure..
Ewan Bonham: And the smaller, a child.
Ewan Bonham: The two are dancing...so open fun and joy..
Ewan Bonham: I would identify it as the parent and child within who are knowing and playing with each other..

--BELL--

Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Aphrodite :)
Ewan Bonham: I am done for now...
Aphrodite Macbain: Hello everyone
Ewan Bonham: Pass to Lucinda
Lucinda Lavender: This is much like my experience of putting on the avatars clothing I am now wearing ...first small then large then back small so that the garment would fit. White can be about Ecstasy. the divine flow of energy.
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Aphrodite, today is dream circle, so I'll give you a note to explain. We're moving toward the end of the session
Aphrodite Macbain: Thank you Eliza
Lucinda Lavender: I am thinking that there is a lovely flow of beingness that is shared between the spinning two. The being in the present that the body experiences through the connection and wholeness..
Lucinda Lavender: pass to Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: I keep coming back to the 'air was filled with light and laughter'...
Eliza Madrigal: not that the dreamer and her familiar were filled...
Eliza Madrigal: more that they were hollow to experience the air...
Eliza Madrigal: open
Eliza Madrigal: and the feathers.... like they were equipped to experience and enjoy what was all around joyfully
Eliza Madrigal: birds have hollow bones I think...
Eliza Madrigal: pass to Ewan
Aphrodite Macbain: This is sounding very surreal to me. Is this part of a beautiful dream someone described?
Ewan Bonham: the movement...is something I feel as i think about this..
Ewan Bonham: Dancing and twirling..
Gaya Ethaniel: I will make a notecard for you Aphrodite.
Ewan Bonham: like, a time to release any tensions..
Ewan Bonham: Because we are dancing with loved ones..
Ewan Bonham: lightness..
Ewan Bonham: Pass to Lucinda
Lucinda Lavender: Thinking about experience and not thinking...just energy felt. pass to Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: one more comment from me... the spiralling seems quite significant. It is a feel of spiralling upward, sharing.. mutual encouragement and comfort. Lovely. Pass to Gaya
Gaya Ethaniel passes to Ewan to share his dream again for others to comment.
Ewan Bonham: Suddenly, I know that i am some kind of political figure [7:16] Ewan Bonham: like I had always been in that role for many years.. [7:17] Ewan Bonham: I know that I am being accused of something. [7:17] Ewan Bonham: It seems very harsh...and the details do not come to my attention.. [7:18] Ewan Bonham: I ask if I can meet my accusers... [7:18] Ewan Bonham: Or have a hearing of some sort.. [7:18] Ewan Bonham: All that is impossible, it seems. [7:18] Ewan Bonham: I feel trapped and a bit lost.. [7:18] Ewan Bonham: And in peril of losing what i have. [7:18] Ewan Bonham: I wake up only with this snippet. [7:19] Ewan Bonham: Few other actions or details.. [7:19] Ewan Bonham: I am done
Ewan Bonham: my first time...and feeling a bit unnerved with this one..
Ewan Bonham: Pass to lucinda
Aphrodite Macbain: cu later everyone. next time I'll come on time!
Lucinda Lavender: I think that the feeling caught in roles
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks Aphrodite, see you soon :))
Ewan Bonham: Bye aphro
Gaya Ethaniel: Thanks for coming Aphrodite. Hope you can join us next time.
Lucinda Lavender: I am being called away at this moment...so sorry...
Gaya Ethaniel: np
Lucinda Lavender: pass to Eliza

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: What Lucinda mentions very much resonates with me about this dream...
Eliza Madrigal: the idea of roles, and of long-time roles or projections that it is possible to feel condemned to, we think by others...
Eliza Madrigal: but perhaps there is a collaboration.. the whole scene itself, for instance
Eliza Madrigal: the framework of a courtroom feel
Eliza Madrigal: asking to meet the accusers seems highly significant...
Eliza Madrigal: because as long as they are in the shadows there is a sense of being stuck
Eliza Madrigal: but asking, is an opening
Eliza Madrigal: pass to Gaya
Gaya Ethaniel: Thanks :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Feeling stuck is unpleasant but also one feels under pressure on top of it.
Gaya Ethaniel: Unfortunately, it is difficult to see how to move out of the situation as 'details' are unclear.
Gaya Ethaniel: And one is surrounded by people who are blaming him ...
Gaya Ethaniel: Perhaps the dream suggests keeping calm and letting details to emerge slowly or be patient for things to clear up in time.
Gaya Ethaniel: Pass to Ewan
Ewan Bonham: Thank you...it is helpful..
Gaya Ethaniel: Do you have more comments Eliza?
Ewan Bonham: I notice that 'guilt' is really not a part of this..
Ewan Bonham: pass to eliza
Eliza Madrigal: No more comments.... other than wondering about the way these things fit together... how giving away and allowing ourselves to be open is freedom from roles, etc
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Bertram :) We are almost at the end of the session ... but please join us.
Bertram Jacobus: ty - if i only may sit and listen ? ... and hello all
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bert :) yes, we're wrapping up but of course!
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Ewan Bonham: hi bert
Bertram Jacobus: ty
Gaya Ethaniel: I just want to mention ...
Gaya Ethaniel: I notice that this is a recurring theme ...
Gaya Ethaniel: I think it can be seen as a natural pattern for one's growth.
Gaya Ethaniel: We do get stuck sometimes ...
Gaya Ethaniel: etc.
Gaya Ethaniel: It perhaps helps to know that it's not 'bad' or 'good'.
Gaya Ethaniel: That's all I have to say.
Gaya Ethaniel: Thanks everyone!
Eliza Madrigal: Thank you Gaya, everyone. Great points, those
Eliza Madrigal: natural patterns, spirals toward openness...
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Enjoy your day and look forward to our next meeting in 2 weeks' time.
Ewan Bonham: Very helpful both ways..
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes the spiral image :)
Ewan Bonham: giving and receiving..
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Eliza Madrigal: I must scurry... Have lovely days
Bertram Jacobus: same for you
Eliza Madrigal waves