2009.12.06 13:00 - memories and experience

The Guardian for this meeting was Maxine Walden. The comments are by Maxine Walden. (I will edit this session with added comments soon.  Wanted to post it for others reference)

Alfred Kelberry: oi, maxine
Maxine Walden: hi, Alf!
Geoff Baily: Hi Alferd hi Maxine
Maxine Walden: hi, Geoff
Alfred Kelberry: oi, eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Maxine, Geoff, Alfred :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hey Wol :)
Alfred Kelberry: behold! wol has joined us! :)
Wol Euler: hello geoff, maxine, alf, eliza
Eliza Madrigal thinks she may stand here with Alfred today... hehe
Geoff Baily: Hi Eliza hi Wol
Maxine Walden: hi,Wol
Alfred Kelberry: aw.. thank you, eliza. i'd like that :)
Eliza Madrigal: heh..til my legs get really tired
Alfred Kelberry: i can pour you a cup of tea if you like :)
Eliza Madrigal: That would be delightful
Geoff Baily: ;)
Maxine Walden: we are very hospitable here
Alfred Kelberry: in that case there is a spot with a bunch of pillows at the column :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Alfred Kelberry: yay!
Maxine Walden: Geoff, have you been to many of these meetings?
Eliza Madrigal: MMM, thanks... nice and warm in the snow
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Geoff Baily: Several now Maxine
Geoff Baily: Very interesting
Maxine Walden: wonderful,just checking, part of my task to be sure everyon is aware of our chatlog and the general format
Geoff Baily: ;)
Alfred Kelberry looks at wol
Alfred Kelberry: mm.. zebrish today? :)
Wol Euler: snakeskin
Alfred Kelberry: hehe
Wol Euler: very large snake
Maxine Walden: ahhh!!
Alfred Kelberry: yes, must be :)
Eliza Madrigal: :) Sssss
Maxine Walden: but, Wol, are you the snake or inside the snake?
Geoff Baily: ??????
Alfred Kelberry: wol, have you noticed me wearing a sweater?
Wol Euler: :)
Alfred Kelberry: i think she's both :)
Wol Euler: this is *inside* the snake, I think; I have anoother outfit that feels more like being the snake
Wol Euler: and yes, alf, I did notice. Well done. Noted in my diary :)
Alfred Kelberry: ok, just checking :)
Maxine Walden: Any PaB experiences, questions to share?
Eliza Madrigal: Hm, well Alfred, playing as you has been interesting... really fun to sit in the circle though...hope you don't mind and I can keep the tea!
Maxine Walden: Oh, Eliza and Wol, were you both going to offer some mentoring this session? Perfectly fine with me
Geoff Baily: Feel i'm just beginning
Maxine Walden: (love these snow flakes falling)
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, no that's next week Maxine :)
Alfred Kelberry: not at all, eliza. it was nice having a company :)
Maxine Walden: Geoff, we all are just beginning!!
Eliza Madrigal: Thank you Alfred :)
Wol Euler: well, I had envisioned rather a quiet Q&A in IM
Maxine Walden: Oh, thanks Eliza for the correction
Geoff Baily: ;) some more so than others!!
Maxine Walden: and Wol for the format you have in mind
Maxine Walden: perhaps, Geoff, some more 'at the beginning' than others, but in fact the most receptive mind is the 'beginning mind' in terms of humility; many of us think so anyway.
Eliza Madrigal smiles, yes indeed
Alfred Kelberry: true, maxine
Geoff Baily: ;)
Maxine Walden: hmm, in fact, it is interesting, the more I feel I know folks here, often over time, the more 'at the beginning' it is easier to be (awkward sentence structure); just mean being at ease with folks we know
Eliza Madrigal: like finding freshness, Maxine?
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Maxine Walden: ah, snowing...and yet it feels warm to be here
Geoff Baily: ;)
Alfred Kelberry: when the assesment stage is over :)
Maxine Walden: yes, Eliza, exactly
Maxine Walden: yes, Alf...
--BELL--
Wol Euler: once we've negotiated vocabulary and standards and protocols
Eliza Madrigal: :)... moving through a few seasons together seems helpful too.. like a settling...
Maxine Walden: indeed, Eliza, agree
Geoff Baily: I think we are so lucky to have this
Maxine Walden: yes, Geoff, care to say more?
Wol Euler: agreed
Geoff Baily: I feel that ther is such an opportunity to explore
Alfred Kelberry: wol, you reminded me the kung-fu panda :)
Geoff Baily: ourselves and others gere
Maxine Walden: hmm, yes, Geoff
Geoff Baily: here*
Geoff Baily: Its serious fun
Wol Euler: best kind.
Alfred Kelberry: i like this term :)
Geoff Baily: ;)
Maxine Walden: Term, Alf?
Alfred Kelberry: i wonder if there is a kung-fu panda av
Geoff Baily: fun is play
Alfred Kelberry: er.. what geoff said, maxine - serious fun
Maxine Walden: ah, thanks!
Geoff Baily: but play can be serious!!!!!
Eliza Madrigal: that's something that keeps coming up... balancing intensity of focus, with lightness...both
Wol Euler thinks of watching children playing. They are very serious, intent, utterly immersed in what they're doing, and enjoying it,
Geoff Baily: ;)
Maxine Walden: perhaps we could watch ourselves lightly during the next pause, sort of as Wol has suggested...
Alfred Kelberry: wol, well, a broken house from cubes is a tradegy to them :)
Geoff Baily: ok
Wol Euler: perhaps they're right, alf; perhaps it is, and it's a weakness in us that we don't cry with them over it.
Eliza Madrigal: oh wow, Wol.. what a heartbreakingly beautiful idea
Wol Euler: I've been watching my boss' kids, aged 2 and 0.
Alfred Kelberry: yes.. there's a clear misunderstanding between the two. losing a hundred bucks is not a big deal to them either :)
Eliza Madrigal still remembers her first popped balloon
Alfred Kelberry: aww..
Wol Euler nods and blinks.
Maxine Walden: and what have you noticed,Wol?
Maxine Walden: or what emotions arise?
Alfred Kelberry: age 0 - i like that! :)
Eliza Madrigal: age wu
Geoff Baily: the beauty of a dragonfly's wings is the first thing I can remember
Wol Euler: well, how seriously the 2-yr-old sees the world. He tries to name everything, and checks on things being the same as they were yesterday
Wol Euler: and compares his impression of them to ours, asks us to confirm what he sees
Eliza Madrigal nods... keeps checking.... yes
Wol Euler: it's amazing what he picks up, how quickly he learns.
Wol Euler: it seems to me that he learns to identify a thing and its word on a single hearing.
Geoff Baily: but my mother did not see it and I could not explain to her
Geoff Baily: the beauty of it
Eliza Madrigal: hmmmm
Wol Euler nods to Geoff.
Maxine Walden: ah...Geoff, so you were left with unexpressable'beauty'?
Geoff Baily: yes
Maxine Walden: or without the words to express/share...
Geoff Baily: same now
--BELL--
Alfred Kelberry: wol, i think maybe the closest experience of a 2 years old we can get is when find ourselfs alone in a distant country with language and culture we don't know.
Maxine Walden: Interesting thought, Alf
Maxine Walden: Any observations or experiences from this pause to share, anyone?
Eliza Madrigal: seems that sense of what is inexpressable is the closest thing to 'truth'... can't be told... presence can be shared perhaps....
Geoff Baily: yes Alfred I agree
Geoff Baily: Yes Alfred I agree
Geoff Baily: yes Eliza
Maxine Walden: shared, maybe approached in terms of being at one with, but vritually unknowable -- truth and perhaps beauty
Geoff Baily: and love
Alfred Kelberry: eliza, that makes me think of a concept of dirty words that label a sacred entity that you can't name, but only feel :)
Eliza Madrigal: hah, Alfred... sounds like a theme session
Eliza Madrigal: =P~
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Wol Euler: perhaps htat is the reason for hte prohibition on naming God: to prevent us from thinking htat we have understood him
Alfred Kelberry: yes, interesting
Maxine Walden: yes, or (perish the thought) 'posessed' him
Geoff Baily: words can have power in themselves
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Maxine Walden: via naming him
Eliza Madrigal: yes, to remind us that we don't know, and that's how it is
Geoff Baily: magic!!!!
Eliza Madrigal: I'm honestly flooded with memories of my children at the moment... of seeing my daughter take a chair out of her dollhouse and really think she might sit on it for instance....
Maxine Walden: hmm,Eliza
Wol Euler smiles
Geoff Baily: ;)
Geoff Baily: ;)
Eliza Madrigal: or my little one reading "Ms Spider" and turning to me with tears running down her face because no one would come to the tea party
Maxine Walden: she being so 'in' the situations she was witnessing
Wol Euler nods
Eliza Madrigal: yes, so many experiences like that... and Wol touched such a spot... something so real ...
Alfred Kelberry: aww.. cute little thing, eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: when she cried over that page in the book, over the spider, THAT is when I cried... and really felt it
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Eliza Madrigal: it mattered as much as any moment in the world
Geoff Baily: ;(
Eliza Madrigal: No... was beautiful Geoff... empathy :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Love
Geoff Baily: ;)
Wol Euler: mmhmm, true.
Maxine Walden: sharing even pain seems to bring us closer to love; the sharing and the feeling is the issue
Geoff Baily: yes!!
Eliza Madrigal nods... presence
Maxine Walden: wondering if in this next pause, if we are comfortable, wemight let our minds/memories wander to such experiences in the past or perhaps even in the present moment...often more difficult to focus on the present moment than past memories
Alfred Kelberry: actually, i myself almost got teary the other day reading a story about a girl whose dog died and she got a letter from "god" :) guess i was "in" the moment, too. but i'm sentimental this way :)
Maxine Walden: ahh, Alf
Eliza Madrigal: I can't help but notice how tangible it becomes when we talk about these things... here in this virtual world, all over the world in RL... no distance in Being
Wol Euler: the talking is real, the people reaching out are real.
--BELL--
Alfred Kelberry: yes, wol, i often don't see a difference actually
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Geoff Baily: sharing feelings here can be very real
Alfred Kelberry: i bet eliza has a lot to share after this break :)
Wol Euler: god yes.
Wol Euler: (to geoff)
Geoff Baily: yes yes yes
Wol Euler: many of my earliest memories are of loss
Wol Euler: I wonder if that's generally true? Eliza, your balloon fits that pattern
Eliza Madrigal: it is certainly an idea... the intensity, or surprise perhaps?
Eliza Madrigal: one is never ready for a popped balloon
Wol Euler: coming face to face with impermanence
Eliza Madrigal: Yes!
Maxine Walden: and in my experience loss is more intensely felt than most positive feelings which are often softer, gentler
Maxine Walden: the more intense, the sharper the memroy, perhaps
Eliza Madrigal: hmm, yes perhaps...
Geoff Baily: true Maxine
Eliza Madrigal: and yet there is sweetness in sharing even loss at times...
Maxine Walden: the sharing can be very sweet, softening the loss perhaps
Eliza Madrigal: falling in the snow
Wol Euler: being able to talk about it transforms the memory, I've found, makes it less ... harsh, perhaps
Wol Euler: hello yaku
Maxine Walden: agree, Wol
Maxine Walden: hi, yaku
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Ya :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
Geoff Baily: hi Yakuzza
Yakuzza Lethecus: alfred, sitting but still not in the round :)
Eliza Madrigal: the things we hide can take on strange proportions perhaps, and bringing them out, sharing them can be liberating... see things more clearly...
Maxine Walden: agree entirely, Eliza
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Geoff Baily: yes Eliza true
Alfred Kelberry: hi, yaku :) i am in the round, just in the other form :)
Eliza Madrigal: like the little chair :)
Alfred Kelberry: wol, maybe it's a trend of time - forget the bad, emphasize the good
Maxine Walden: I have to go everyone; it has been a lovely conversation. Very nice to see you all
Maxine Walden: bye for now!
Eliza Madrigal: It has been lovely. Thanks so much Maxine :)
Alfred Kelberry: good to have you, maxine :)
Wol Euler: thank you maxine, lovely to see you again.
Geoff Baily: bye Maxine thankyou
Alfred Kelberry: ok, clockwise - wol chooses the next topic :)
Wol Euler: no, you are before me clockwise.
Eliza Madrigal thinks of how much time she's spent in SL today and remembers the conversation this morning... hehe... somewhere Jiminy Cricket is waking up
Alfred Kelberry: damn.. right :)
Wol Euler: heh
Wol Euler: the roundness of the earth...
Geoff Baily: ;)
Wol Euler: 7am in tokyo if Pema is still there
Wol Euler: (and even if he isn't)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: bubbles, balloons, planets... maybe perception itself is round... hah
Geoff Baily: how much of what az perceive comes from within us?
Wol Euler: actually, that reminds me of something from the BS exercise on Friday. My feeling of changing from me seeing to Being seeing, was that my perception expanded from a linear focus to a sphere
--BELL--
Geoff Baily: we*
Eliza Madrigal: your sensation of space around self, Wol? Or?
Alfred Kelberry: bs exercise - sounds peculiar :)
Wol Euler: Geoff, figuring that out is one of the purposes of meditation :)
Geoff Baily: openness!!
Wol Euler: my ... hmmm ... my visualization of what I could perceive. I felt as it changed, htat "my" perception was focussed, directted through my eyes in front of me
Wol Euler: where as Being Seeing (the "BS", Alf) was all-inclusive, all around
Alfred Kelberry: ok, if perception is a sphere, then gravity is god :)
Eliza Madrigal: MM, yes relate to that sense of inclusiveness...
Eliza Madrigal: like endless good will with no separations
Alfred Kelberry: wol, ah, thanks :)
Geoff Baily: have you ever imagined what it is like to be blind? visual metaphors predominat
Eliza Madrigal: or that would be my spin maybe.... but generous...
Geoff Baily: a blind person may feel a tree like a wall of rustling leaves!!
Wol Euler: very generous, giving of attention and affection.
Wol Euler: "I" had been sitting here annoyed by the neighbours' music which I could hear thumping away
Alfred Kelberry: hey! a party!
Wol Euler: but Being felt joy at it, and everyrhing around. I could feel Being touch each of those sensations and greet it with joy, like a child touches things it walks past
Geoff Baily: ;)
Eliza Madrigal smiles widely and gets teary again
Wol Euler: yeah, me too :)
Geoff Baily: fresh and new
Eliza Madrigal: MM, yes
Eliza Madrigal: and essential.... who is seeling the tree bark with their hands....
Geoff Baily: and smelling the fresh leaves.....
Eliza Madrigal: and calling them 'leaves' ?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Wol Euler: I don't understand how people can be bored, when there is a whole world to be touched and smelled and looked at.
Eliza Madrigal: Wonderous :)
Geoff Baily: ;)
Geoff Baily: some are burdened by debt or hunger or thirst
Geoff Baily: just manage to survive often
Alfred Kelberry: wol, when people get used to 9-5 daily routine, they get bored every weekend. and imagine the horror of retirement :)
Eliza Madrigal: boredom is restlessness sometimes... having too much
Wol Euler: (well, yes, OK, practically speaking I do understand that; but I don't *want* to ...)
Eliza Madrigal: not knowing how to extend it in a real way
Wol Euler nods to alf.
Eliza Madrigal: unevenness
Eliza Madrigal: My son becomes profoundly bored Sunday evenings, in anticipation that school is the next day and he hasn't done something 'huge' with the weekend
Wol Euler: though I bet he wasn't at all dissatisfied from one moment to the next, as he was doing his weekend?
Eliza Madrigal: exactly!
Wol Euler: :)
Wol Euler: so boredom is about value, not about events
Wol Euler: (thinking out loud)
Geoff Baily: or anger sometimes
Eliza Madrigal: appreciation... as I am appreciating your thinking out loud today, Wol
Alfred Kelberry: well, as i remember my school days, sunday evenings suck :)
Wol Euler: :)
Eliza Madrigal: hah, Alfred :) Only if you leave homework to the last minute :)
Geoff Baily: ;)
Wol Euler laughs
Alfred Kelberry: in fact, i tried to finish them on friday :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles...yay!
Eliza Madrigal: :) I did my homework friday, too
Geoff Baily: that's a good weekend!
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Wol Euler: Sunday evening was clean-up time, bath and shampoo and cut finger- and toenails, then watch an hour of TV before bed
Wol Euler: with cocoa
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, structured
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: MMM
Alfred Kelberry: wol, aw.. :)
Wol Euler: structure, aye. Structure was my mother's bolted door to keep the wolves out.
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eliza Madrigal: did it work?
Wol Euler: heheheheh
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Wol Euler: I think so.
Wol Euler: I could ask...
Eliza Madrigal: haha, yes maybe you should :)
Alfred Kelberry: there's something wolfy about wol, though :)
Eliza Madrigal grins
Wol Euler: :)
Wol Euler: boy, this session is bringing out some emotional baggage.
Eliza Madrigal: yes... doesn't seem so baggage-y though...
Alfred Kelberry: eliza's baloon to blame :)
Wol Euler: no, wrong word ...
Eliza Madrigal: the balloon pop heard round the world
Wol Euler: it is now.
Wol Euler: you'll be in google by breakfast
Eliza Madrigal: I do wonder about it though... as children... all wrapped up in what we're playing with... like it is the whole world...
Eliza Madrigal: and it is.. in a sense
Wol Euler: absolutely.
Wol Euler: and relatively.
Geoff Baily: yes
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Alfred Kelberry: eliza, oh, the size of your world - this is a striking memory from childhood
Wol Euler: my memory of playing with my sister is that we spent nearly as much time talking over the heads of our dolls negotiating what they were doing, as we did actually playing
Eliza Madrigal: seems wonderful SL practice :)
Wol Euler: popping in and out of meta-discussion
Yakuzza Lethecus: night
Wol Euler: goodnight yaku, sleep well
Geoff Baily: What we nave here is for us to use as we want
Eliza Madrigal: ah, wonderful memories... and yes serious play
Eliza Madrigal: Night Ya :)
Alfred Kelberry: back then you just enjoyed it and now you have all the fancy labels for it :)
Geoff Baily: good ight
Wol Euler: true.
Eliza Madrigal nods
Wol Euler: but I smile when I see the same happening in SL in Roleplay
Eliza Madrigal: I played with barbies for years beyond the age it was prob appropriate... but in a closet and only with friends who promised not to tell
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Geoff Baily: and inRL
Wol Euler: who were probably very grateful to you, Eliza, for gving them that chance.
Eliza Madrigal: yes they were!
Wol Euler smiles
Geoff Baily: ;)
Eliza Madrigal: its funny Geoff... sl is like non-material material
Eliza Madrigal: very buddhist :)
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Alfred Kelberry: actually, i really like the 3rd person view here. it helps to detach from innately self-centered view of the world.
Wol Euler: yes, I too, I'm cammed out looking frontally at the four of us
Geoff Baily: yes detachable!
Eliza Madrigal nods to Alfred yes an interesting idea... seeing many views at once in a way
Wol Euler: but nonetheless, I *feel* SL from my body's position
Wol Euler: Eliza is to my right, not on the left of my screen
Eliza Madrigal: I stayed a little standing next to Alfred as I was in the beginning....
Eliza Madrigal: even though I moved and sat down
Geoff Baily: yes but do you not feel able to 'cam about' in RL
Eliza Madrigal: hm, hadn't noticed that at all...
Alfred Kelberry: yes, eliza, and i looked at both of us - admiring the picture :)
Geoff Baily: ones attention can be directed where one wants
Geoff Baily: inRL
Alfred Kelberry: geoff, attention yes, but not self. not so easily.
Geoff Baily: can learn to
Eliza Madrigal: that can be let go, too.... that locatedness... into Being....
Geoff Baily: no self anyway really!
Eliza Madrigal: the YSBS excercize is world changing
Wol Euler: heh
--BELL--
Geoff Baily: all is dreams?
Eliza Madrigal: just all we see or seem :)
Wol Euler: :)
Eliza Madrigal: but it is honestly strange... thinking of 'difficult' memories that come up, and looking at them as a dream....
Alfred Kelberry: dreams... sadly maxine had to leave :)
Eliza Madrigal: what then is a dream
Geoff Baily: yes true
Wol Euler: a dream is a memory that only you have :)
Geoff Baily: a parallel reality?
Geoff Baily: stitched together by our brains
Eliza Madrigal: the balloon pops... the loved one dies... who is the child next to the bed? Not me...
Alfred Kelberry: dream-like interface to virtual worlds - this is something i hope to see in my lifetime :)
Wol Euler nods
Alfred Kelberry: wol, i liked your definition, though. i might use that if you don't mind :)
Geoff Baily: Midsummer's night's dream
Wol Euler: please do.
Alfred Kelberry: unless you share it [your dream] :)
Eliza Madrigal: sometimes I think we often edge toward dream talk at the end of pab as a kind of habitual way of ending the day together...
Alfred Kelberry: ah, i thought it was a sunrise...
Eliza Madrigal: :) that's nice too
Eliza Madrigal: but sigh... have to go....
Eliza Madrigal: hoping nothing is lurking in my son's agenda to attend to :))))
Geoff Baily: bye Eliza
Alfred Kelberry: hehe
Wol Euler: thank you so much, eliza, this was a wonderful session
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Wol, Geoff, Alfred...
Eliza Madrigal: and yes such a beautiful one, thanks so much Wol
Alfred Kelberry: bye, eliza - say hi to your son from virtual worlds :)
Alfred Kelberry: i think we need to give eliza a new baloon
Geoff Baily: ;)
Alfred Kelberry: one that doesn't pop :)
Geoff Baily: 0
Alfred Kelberry: we need to ask what color it was
Alfred Kelberry: i got one from sun, i think
Alfred Kelberry: duh, looks more like a lollipop :)
Geoff Baily: thats great Alfred
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Geoff Baily: magical
Wol Euler: heheh
Geoff Baily: thanks!!!!!!!!
Alfred Kelberry: hey, we could surprise her tomorrow with having baloons in our hands :)
Alfred Kelberry: you're welcome, geoff
Wol Euler: make them balloon-like balloons though (if I may be critical)
Geoff Baily: ;)
Wol Euler: is that modifiable?
Alfred Kelberry: hehe
Alfred Kelberry: er.. not sure
Alfred Kelberry: nah
Alfred Kelberry: it's not
Wol Euler: if so we could take them apart and attach the ribbons and stick to a blobby balloon
Wol Euler: ah well.
Alfred Kelberry: you could make one :)
Wol Euler: I'mm not a really good builder.
Geoff Baily: ;)
Alfred Kelberry: you can craft cars, so a tiny baloon would be a piece of cake :)
Wol Euler: well, give me a few days.
Alfred Kelberry: yay!
Geoff Baily: sounde great
--BELL--
Wol Euler: bah
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Alfred Kelberry: ouch
Geoff Baily: !!
Alfred Kelberry: ru-u-un!!
Alfred Kelberry: :P
Alfred Kelberry: hey, wol...
Alfred Kelberry: you look.. sexy with this thing :)
Wol Euler: oh dear.
Geoff Baily: playing?
Alfred Kelberry giggles
Wol Euler laughs
Alfred Kelberry: as beings :)
Alfred Kelberry: of some sort :)
Geoff Baily: yessssssss
Wol Euler: wear it, stand near someone and left-click on them
Alfred Kelberry: hehe
Geoff Baily: its such fune!!!!!!
Alfred Kelberry: hehe
Alfred Kelberry: i like this sound :)
Alfred Kelberry: mm.. you know wol.. i start to feel something :)
Wol Euler: hehehehehhe
Alfred Kelberry: this is a love hammer, isn't it? :)
Wol Euler: yep
Alfred Kelberry: aww..
Alfred Kelberry: yes, please. hit me more :)
Wol Euler laughs
Alfred Kelberry: hehe
Wol Euler: it's a secret plot to fill the world with masochists
Alfred Kelberry: haha
Geoff Baily: can't make it work!!!
Alfred Kelberry: this is a way to end the session :)
Wol Euler: oh, just right-click on it and select "wear"
Wol Euler: it'll be in your inventory on the scond tab, "recent items"
Wol Euler: heartpikopikohammer
Geoff Baily: i can get it butnot open it!!!!
Wol Euler: no, don't open it.
Wol Euler: just wear it as it is
Wol Euler: trust me :)
Wol Euler: right-click and select "wear"
Alfred Kelberry: tada!
Wol Euler: yay
Wol Euler: now click on alf
Alfred Kelberry: haha
Wol Euler: yes!
Alfred Kelberry: it works :)
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Wol Euler: heheheheh
Geoff Baily: !!!!!!!
Alfred Kelberry: we should make it a session too :)
Geoff Baily: not wrkig for me!!!!!
Wol Euler: yes, it did. left click on alf
Alfred Kelberry: oh boy - it does :)
Wol Euler: there
Alfred Kelberry: well, sorry folks, but i have to go
Wol Euler: I'm not sure why sometimes hearts come out, and sometimes not.
Alfred Kelberry: bye guys - thank you for being here today :)
Wol Euler: goodnight alf, take care. sleep well
Geoff Baily: I must go too now thanks both
Wol Euler: bye geoff, take care. see you anon.
Geoff Baily: yes see you again soon
Wol Euler: do you know how to take it off? (just in case)
Geoff Baily: thanks fora good session Wol
Geoff Baily: take what off
Wol Euler: the hammer
Geoff Baily: do i ahve it?
Wol Euler: mmhmm, still in your right hand
Geoff Baily: cant see it
Wol Euler: huh
Wol Euler: how odd.
Wol Euler: definitely there for me.
Wol Euler: now ti's gone.
Wol Euler: lag, probably.
Wol Euler: yes, thank you geoff, it was a great session
Geoff Baily: thanks, my laptop is really too small for fullSL
Geoff Baily: thanks again!!!
Wol Euler: bye for now.
Geoff Baily: bye