2009.12.08 01:00 - Island Life

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Calvino Rabeni: Hello Repose, how is it going?
Repose Lionheart: Hi Calvino
Repose Lionheart: pretty good
Repose Lionheart: no moderator tonight
Repose Lionheart: or this morning, i guess
Calvino Rabeni: I'm the substitute moderator :)
Repose Lionheart: oh, ok
Repose Lionheart: not much of a turnout ã‹¡
Repose Lionheart: odd hour i suppose
Calvino Rabeni: Middle of the night in USA. Sometimes we have Europeans here at this time. It varies - ther have been some 2-3 hour rap sessions
Calvino Rabeni: What area of the wrld are you in?
Repose Lionheart: oh
Repose Lionheart: i'm in southern california
Repose Lionheart: sl time
Calvino Rabeni: I don't always remember - maybe we talked about that another time.
Repose Lionheart: perhaps
Calvino Rabeni: Yes,it comes back to me now...
Calvino Rabeni: Night Owls.
Repose Lionheart: my memory is not always the best either
Repose Lionheart: oh, right
Repose Lionheart: now i too remember
Calvino Rabeni: SO much goes on here - I think my memory is getting a bit better, but still.
Repose Lionheart: yes
Repose Lionheart: i have a question
Calvino Rabeni: So what interests you about this group, if I may ask?
Repose Lionheart: new way of interacting
Repose Lionheart: group process
Repose Lionheart: to reinforce individual mindfullness
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Wester Kiranov: hi - i made it after all!
Repose Lionheart: must have wider application too
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Repose Lionheart: ahhh...good
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Calvino Rabeni: Group process can be fascinating. Do you study it?
Repose Lionheart: another av
Repose Lionheart: study?
Calvino Rabeni: Hi, Wester. I have the log
Repose Lionheart: well i'm interesting in it
Wester Kiranov: i noticed. do you want me to take it instead?
Calvino Rabeni: Same here, for a long time.
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Calvino Rabeni: Not necessary unless you want it, Wester.
Wester Kiranov: ty then
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Wester Kiranov: hi repose
Repose Lionheart: hi wester
Repose Lionheart: ummm...i don't misbehave, wester
Calvino Rabeni: We might be talking about group dynamics :)
Repose Lionheart: yes
Calvino Rabeni: I think, you know some things, Weater?
Calvino Rabeni: Wester.
Repose Lionheart: though i have a question
Calvino Rabeni: Yes?
Repose Lionheart: what counts as play in Play as Being?
Calvino Rabeni: Greate question.
Calvino Rabeni: I think, it is an idea that we can do this with a light feeling, have fun, not carry a seriousness.
Wester Kiranov: I think any definition would restrict it unnecessarily
Calvino Rabeni: Anything can be meaningful in th study of life and being.
Repose Lionheart: true
Calvino Rabeni: RIght, it couldn't be defined
Wester Kiranov: but how you feel doing it is important
Calvino Rabeni: It means, relax and stay open.
Calvino Rabeni: Curiousity is a good thing too!
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Calvino Rabeni: That is what comes to me about it.
Repose Lionheart: ok
Repose Lionheart: thanks
Wester Kiranov: you can play an "official" game in a very grim way, that would not count as playing
Repose Lionheart: yes
Calvino Rabeni: You know, the definition of "play" in a dictionary has todo with "freedome of movement"
Repose Lionheart: i'll continue to think about it
Calvino Rabeni: Kids play, they kind of make stuf up as they go along.
Wester Kiranov: ah - degrees of freedom
Repose Lionheart: yes
Calvino Rabeni: They don't know ahead of time.
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Calvino Rabeni: Creatuve and engaged intelligence
Repose Lionheart: yes, that's why a tried a kid av at the last PaB session i attended ã‹¡
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Calvino Rabeni: How was that to be a kid again in SL?
Calvino Rabeni: Did u feel different?
Repose Lionheart: av identification is an interesting thing
Calvino Rabeni: Yes
Repose Lionheart: but i don't think it added anything to a pab session
Repose Lionheart: play is too internal here
Repose Lionheart: no pies in the face
Wester Kiranov: just snow ;)
Repose Lionheart: hehehe
Calvino Rabeni: Anyone want to say what happened during the pause?
Repose Lionheart: play as freedom from internal constraint perhaps
Wester Kiranov: and the pond is freezing over - someone has been seriously playful there as well
Calvino Rabeni: yes
Calvino Rabeni: Storm I think
Repose Lionheart: yes!
Wester Kiranov: hi arch
Calvino Rabeni: Good eve / day, arch and koya
Archmage Atlantis: Hi, Wester, Repose, Calvino
Repose Lionheart: hello, Archmage
Calvino Rabeni: Sometimes during the timeout my mind returns to freedoms I felt during the day, to kind ofget more of them
Calvino Rabeni: If they passed to quickly
Wester Kiranov: can you give an example?
Repose Lionheart: i sit quietly, the monkey mind stills...
Calvino Rabeni: Sure. I had dinner with my mother, and it was a "normal"conversation
Calvino Rabeni: But I had an image of her suddenly not as a human, but as a natural animal. We were talking animals at another PAB session
Calvino Rabeni: THen reflecting, I realize it loostens my idea of her and there is more room in my concept, to be natural with her
Calvino Rabeni: It was a good feeling
Calvino Rabeni: And the pause helped it kind of settle in.
Archmage Atlantis: Nice story, Cal....ties experience to the practice....plus it's kind of sweet :)
Repose Lionheart: yes ã‹¡
Calvino Rabeni: Does it make any sense, that experiences can pass into concept, and get stuck there. For instance, what to do during the pause - I somethmes think it will get to be always the same.
Calvino Rabeni: Thus I want play in it.
Repose Lionheart: hmmm...
Wester Kiranov: I just realized this is one of the reasons it feels good to be here - there's room for pause, for silence
Repose Lionheart: oh...yes!
Calvino Rabeni: that is great :)
Archmage Atlantis: For me, for experience to pass into concept and/or meditation is the best times, pause or not
Wester Kiranov: but what you just said calvino, that is something to stay aware of. because it's so easy to get stuck
Calvino Rabeni: sure is
Calvino Rabeni: in groups, there's often or usually I think, the expectation you have t say something fast in order to look smart, or conneted, etc. But it ends up shallower or more automatic than it could be.
Repose Lionheart: yes
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Archmage Atlantis: For me, it is a letting go of analysis, letting the thoughts come forward from within the mind/body/soule
Repose Lionheart: better to speak when you have someting to say ã‹¡
Repose Lionheart: yes
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Calvino Rabeni: You honor yourself, Arch.
Archmage Atlantis: How do you mean that, Cal?
Calvino Rabeni: Thanks for asking. Your last comment - let the thoughts come from the mind/body/soul - I think is a way of listening to what is in oneself and acting like it matters - crediting it with a reality.
Calvino Rabeni: Remembering to see yourself.
Calvino Rabeni: That is how I translate your comment to my own understanding
Archmage Atlantis: Ah, yes, that us well said, "listening to what is in oneself" and "acting like it matters"
Calvino Rabeni: Could be called self-acceptance.
Archmage Atlantis: I does matter, in my understatnding
Calvino Rabeni: But not in a passive way
Repose Lionheart: and "remembering to see yourself"
Repose Lionheart: like that
Calvino Rabeni: Yes, I think of it almost like, how to see another person.
Calvino Rabeni: Without taking them for granted
Repose Lionheart: yes
Wester Kiranov: without thinking that you already know what you're like
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, we are not just one thing, and all of us is not visible
Calvino Rabeni: :)
Repose Lionheart: yes, not all visible...
Calvino Rabeni: All that is not visible - not immediately useful - not already involved in doing what life needs in the small moment.
Archmage Atlantis: Smile, indeed Cal, so true
Repose Lionheart: the small moment -- interesting
Repose Lionheart: nice way to put it...
Calvino Rabeni: Do you mind if I share a poem ?
Archmage Atlantis: Please do
Repose Lionheart: love it
Wester Kiranov: that's fine
Calvino Rabeni: Not mine
Calvino Rabeni: ISLANDS

O for God's sake
they are connected
underneath

They look at each other
across the glittering sea
some keep a low profile

Some are cliffs
The Bathers think
islands are separate like them
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Calvino Rabeni: I tped AA here, wester
Calvino Rabeni: Thanks, I thought it might have been you, wester
Calvino Rabeni: THey are interesting, but not used yet
Wester Kiranov: hi arch
Archmage Atlantis: Hi, Wester
Calvino Rabeni: If we had a moveable chat logger, we could do roaming sessions every now and then.
Calvino Rabeni: (although people might pop in and miss it)
Wester Kiranov: nice dance ;)
Archmage Atlantis: were you being the guardian Cal?
Wester Kiranov: he filled in for me, and then I did manage to get there after all
Archmage Atlantis: That comment should be in the log, so others would see it
Wester Kiranov: but he should have the log
Calvino Rabeni: It may be on my hard disk
Archmage Atlantis: Ah, a few "emergency procedures" never hurt
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Calvino Rabeni: I did find the chat data on my disk
Archmage Atlantis: Did you locate Repose also, Cal? - although the meeting is really past the end of it's time period, and I have to go do RL things
Calvino Rabeni: I was having difficulty remembering the full av name, so no.
Calvino Rabeni: I will try now
Archmage Atlantis: Repose Lionheart
Wester Kiranov: I think we all have other things to do. would like to leave now as well - we can stay in touch about the chat log.
Wester Kiranov: I would like to thank you both for an interesting session
Archmage Atlantis: I hadn't seen him there before, but there are still people who come to meetings that I don't
Calvino Rabeni: Repose is on his way here
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, I like ending on Cal's poem actually
Wester Kiranov: repose has been to some meetings, but he is pretty new
Calvino Rabeni: Thanks both!
Wester Kiranov: bye then
Archmage Atlantis: Your composition Cal?
Wester Kiranov: namaste
Archmage Atlantis: Bye Wester
Calvino Rabeni: Poem is by Muriel Rukeyser - I sent a link but it was lost in the crash.
Calvino Rabeni: http://intercapillaryspace.blogspot....r-islands.html
Archmage Atlantis: Ah, well it was an excellent choice - Beautiful imagery
Calvino Rabeni: Repose logged off. And I will go also. See you another time,Archmage.
Archmage Atlantis: Late Cal :) - have a good next period
Calvino Rabeni: You too - bye.
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